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First torch run what gear for my Hammerdin LVL94 or should I just respec to a Smiter?

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I play Offline on a Switch, and have a lot of gear. My Holy Grail
Unique armor 87 %
Unique weapons 85 %
Unique other 64 %
Sets 90 %
Runes 79 %

So I should be able to most things I need with the gear I have, and willing to make some rune words as well, I plan to make them all for my grail anyway.

The runes I lack are:
Vex
,
Ohm
,
Lo
,
Ber
,
Jah
,
Cham
,
Zod

The runes I have, I have already 2 at least of everything

I already have a HotH, Enigma and CTA (Lots of Spirit too)

Gear I have been looking at and already have
Dracul's Grasp

Gore Riders
Charms big resists
Stormshield

Hearty Cord
String of Ears

Anidote potions for
Lilith

Cure
Helm


My merc is an ACT2
Prayer
, whom is equipped with Insight, Duress, Bulwark, willing to change him

And I have plenty of Tokens to respec, so I could just respec to a Smiter

So what say you:

Hammerdin:
What other gear would you recommend to above? Willing to make some runewords and grind LK runs if that is the way to go

If you say Smiter, I can look up guides or how to build one and its gear, but feel free to give a link to a guide as well you would recommend
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Can be used to make Runewords:

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I play Offline on a Switch, and have a lot of gear. My Holy Grail
Unique armor 87 %
Unique weapons 85 %
Unique other 64 %
Sets 90 %
Runes 79 %

So I should be able to most things I need with the gear I have, and willing to make some rune words as well, I plan to make them all for my grail anyway.

The runes I lack are:
Vex
,
Ohm
,
Lo
,
Ber
,
Jah
,
Cham
,
Zod

The runes I have, I have already 2 at least of everything

I already have a HotH, Enigma and CTA (Lots of Spirit too)

Gear I have been looking at and already have
Dracul's Grasp

Gore Riders
Charms big resists
Stormshield

Hearty Cord
String of Ears

Anidote potions for
Lilith

Cure
Helm


My merc is an ACT2
Prayer
, whom is equipped with Insight, Duress, Bulwark, willing to change him

And I have plenty of Tokens to respec, so I could just respec to a Smiter

So what say you:

Hammerdin:
What other gear would you recommend to above? Willing to make some runewords and grind LK runs if that is the way to go

If you say Smiter, I can look up guides or how to build one and its gear, but feel free to give a link to a guide as well you would recommend
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mhlg 2398

Americas PC
I don't think any build in the game is as effective at killing Ubers as a
Smite
Paladin, but it's possible for you to do both if you're bent on giving it a try. With some gear adjustments and a few skill points in
Smite
and
Fanaticism
it's possible, but it won't be quiet as efficient. Here's a link to a thread detailing some experiences I had and some advise from some very experienced members. Make certain that your lightning resistances are high, mine are at about 300%.

forums/i-think-i-m-ready-for-my-first-u ... 11646.html
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You can turn a Hammerdin into a Hybrid Smiter. All you need is a single point into both
Smite
and
Fanaticism
. This build works great for solo
Baal
runs since you can
Smite
the 2-wave guys (they are immune to hammers)

Make Treachery and pre-buff with it. You don't have a
Lo
so make Black for some massive Crushing Blow. Do you have
Herald Of Zakarum
? That would be great for your primary
Smite
shield. If you have it, up it to Elite. Def doesn't matter, you want the higher shield
Smite
damage.
Use
Highlord's Wrath
and T-gods (for uber meph) if you have it.

Your merc WILL die in
Uber Tristram
so you need to manage alone.

Lure Meph away from the north. From Uber portal run around the building immediately to your left via a north west direction. Slowly make your way south until meph starts to follow and them run back north. Kill him and his adds. Go back south until you can peel
Baal
or diablo away. Repeat.

Lastly DONT make a lobby game. Make a password protected game so if you die you can leave and come back for your body without wasting your keys.

GL

I'm willing to accept other forms of currency. Like Tokens, Keys,
Perfect Gems
, and certain minor runes in lieu of my asking price. I'm also willing to accept rune combinations that add up to my asking price.
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OP
mhlg wrote: 16 hours ago
I don't think any build in the game is as effective at killing Ubers as a
Smite
Paladin, but it's possible for you to do both if you're bent on giving it a try. With some gear adjustments and a few skill points in
Smite
and
Fanaticism
it's possible, but it won't be quiet as efficient. Here's a link to a thread detailing some experiences I had and some advise from some very experienced members. Make certain that your lightning resistances are high, mine are at about 300%.

forums/i-think-i-m-ready-for-my-first-u ... 11646.html
Perfect, thank you!
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OP
Knappogue wrote: 15 hours ago
You can turn a Hammerdin into a Hybrid Smiter. All you need is a single point into both
Smite
and
Fanaticism
. This build works great for solo
Baal
runs since you can
Smite
the 2-wave guys (they are immune to hammers)

Make Treachery and pre-buff with it. You don't have a
Lo
so make Black for some massive Crushing Blow. Do you have
Herald Of Zakarum
? That would be great for your primary
Smite
shield. If you have it, up it to Elite. Def doesn't matter, you want the higher shield
Smite
damage.
Use
Highlord's Wrath
and T-gods (for uber meph) if you have it.

Your merc WILL die in
Uber Tristram
so you need to manage alone.

Lure Meph away from the north. From Uber portal run around the building immediately to your left via a north west direction. Slowly make your way south until meph starts to follow and them run back north. Kill him and his adds. Go back south until you can peel
Baal
or diablo away. Repeat.

Lastly DONT make a lobby game. Make a password protected game so if you die you can leave and come back for your body without wasting your keys.

GL
I could grind for a
Lo
, I need it anyway for a Grief, I assume that is where you would put that in a PB, but if not please do tell. I will look into Black, I was poking at what had Crushing Blow, and maybe missed that one.

I do have a
Herald Of Zakarum
and that looked pretty good for a smiter, I just liked the damage reduction from the other, but Hearld might be the way to go.

I do have Highlords, and Thundergod's

Good advice on how to defeat them, I hadn't even really explored that as much as I should

No worries about password protection, single player here offline on my switch.
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biswbdiablo2io wrote: 14 hours ago
I could grind for a
Lo
, I need it anyway for a Grief, I assume that is where you would put that in a PB, but if not please do tell. I will look into Black, I was poking at what had Crushing Blow, and maybe missed that one.

I do have a
Herald Of Zakarum
and that looked pretty good for a smiter, I just liked the damage reduction from the other, but Hearld might be the way to go.
Black, with its 40% CB, is the cheap and easy option for crushing blow. Treachery (as a prebuff - wear it in
Frigid Highlands
until
Fade
triggers and then swap back to your normal armor) is cheap and easy for res AND damage reduction - allowing for the Hoz (with a pdiamond or
Um
).
T-gods for meph. If you can kill him without triggering
Baal
or diablo to move from their spawn points you can go back and swap it out for dungos.

Yea
Lo
for Grief in a PB. It isn't necessary though. You can do Ubers without it.

I'm willing to accept other forms of currency. Like Tokens, Keys,
Perfect Gems
, and certain minor runes in lieu of my asking price. I'm also willing to accept rune combinations that add up to my asking price.
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User avatar

mhlg 2398

Americas PC
biswbdiablo2io wrote: 14 hours ago
Knappogue wrote: 15 hours ago
You can turn a Hammerdin into a Hybrid Smiter. All you need is a single point into both
Smite
and
Fanaticism
. This build works great for solo
Baal
runs since you can
Smite
the 2-wave guys (they are immune to hammers)

Make Treachery and pre-buff with it. You don't have a
Lo
so make Black for some massive Crushing Blow. Do you have
Herald Of Zakarum
? That would be great for your primary
Smite
shield. If you have it, up it to Elite. Def doesn't matter, you want the higher shield
Smite
damage.
Use
Highlord's Wrath
and T-gods (for uber meph) if you have it.

Your merc WILL die in
Uber Tristram
so you need to manage alone.

Lure Meph away from the north. From Uber portal run around the building immediately to your left via a north west direction. Slowly make your way south until meph starts to follow and them run back north. Kill him and his adds. Go back south until you can peel
Baal
or diablo away. Repeat.

Lastly DONT make a lobby game. Make a password protected game so if you die you can leave and come back for your body without wasting your keys.

GL
I could grind for a
Lo
, I need it anyway for a Grief, I assume that is where you would put that in a PB, but if not please do tell. I will look into Black, I was poking at what had Crushing Blow, and maybe missed that one.

I do have a
Herald Of Zakarum
and that looked pretty good for a smiter, I just liked the damage reduction from the other, but Hearld might be the way to go.

I do have Highlords, and Thundergod's

Good advice on how to defeat them, I hadn't even really explored that as much as I should

No worries about password protection, single player here offline on my switch.
Until you have everything you need to roll a Grief a Black is quite sufficient to get you started. The
Herald Of Zakarum
is an excellent shield for smiting. It can be socketed with a
Perfect Diamond
to increase its resists to 69%, and upgraded to increase its damage which makes it near the top of high shield damage for a
Smite
Paladin. If you have on hand or find a
Guillaume's Face
it's another great way to increase crushing blow which is your primary Uber killer, and crushing blow stacks.
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OP
mhlg wrote: 13 hours ago
biswbdiablo2io wrote: 14 hours ago
Knappogue wrote: 15 hours ago
You can turn a Hammerdin into a Hybrid Smiter. All you need is a single point into both
Smite
and
Fanaticism
. This build works great for solo
Baal
runs since you can
Smite
the 2-wave guys (they are immune to hammers)

Make Treachery and pre-buff with it. You don't have a
Lo
so make Black for some massive Crushing Blow. Do you have
Herald Of Zakarum
? That would be great for your primary
Smite
shield. If you have it, up it to Elite. Def doesn't matter, you want the higher shield
Smite
damage.
Use
Highlord's Wrath
and T-gods (for uber meph) if you have it.

Your merc WILL die in
Uber Tristram
so you need to manage alone.

Lure Meph away from the north. From Uber portal run around the building immediately to your left via a north west direction. Slowly make your way south until meph starts to follow and them run back north. Kill him and his adds. Go back south until you can peel
Baal
or diablo away. Repeat.

Lastly DONT make a lobby game. Make a password protected game so if you die you can leave and come back for your body without wasting your keys.

GL
I could grind for a
Lo
, I need it anyway for a Grief, I assume that is where you would put that in a PB, but if not please do tell. I will look into Black, I was poking at what had Crushing Blow, and maybe missed that one.

I do have a
Herald Of Zakarum
and that looked pretty good for a smiter, I just liked the damage reduction from the other, but Hearld might be the way to go.

I do have Highlords, and Thundergod's

Good advice on how to defeat them, I hadn't even really explored that as much as I should

No worries about password protection, single player here offline on my switch.
Until you have everything you need to roll a Grief a Black is quite sufficient to get you started. The
Herald Of Zakarum
is an excellent shield for smiting. It can be socketed with a
Perfect Diamond
to increase its resists to 69%, and upgraded to increase its damage which makes it near the top of high shield damage for a
Smite
Paladin. If you have on hand or find a
Guillaume's Face
it's another great way to increase crushing blow which is your primary Uber killer, and crushing blow stacks.
Ah, nice good call out on
Guillaume's Face
, I have that as well

At this point I am leaning toward a full respec to a smiter and then do a lot of
Key
and torch running. Maybe he stays that way, maybe I respec him back to a hammerdin

Thanks everyone for the help and great call on that thread, its excellent advice.
7
User avatar

mhlg 2398

Americas PC
biswbdiablo2io wrote: 12 hours ago
mhlg wrote: 13 hours ago
biswbdiablo2io wrote: 14 hours ago


I could grind for a
Lo
, I need it anyway for a Grief, I assume that is where you would put that in a PB, but if not please do tell. I will look into Black, I was poking at what had Crushing Blow, and maybe missed that one.

I do have a
Herald Of Zakarum
and that looked pretty good for a smiter, I just liked the damage reduction from the other, but Hearld might be the way to go.

I do have Highlords, and Thundergod's

Good advice on how to defeat them, I hadn't even really explored that as much as I should

No worries about password protection, single player here offline on my switch.
Until you have everything you need to roll a Grief a Black is quite sufficient to get you started. The
Herald Of Zakarum
is an excellent shield for smiting. It can be socketed with a
Perfect Diamond
to increase its resists to 69%, and upgraded to increase its damage which makes it near the top of high shield damage for a
Smite
Paladin. If you have on hand or find a
Guillaume's Face
it's another great way to increase crushing blow which is your primary Uber killer, and crushing blow stacks.
Ah, nice good call out on
Guillaume's Face
, I have that as well

At this point I am leaning toward a full respec to a smiter and then do a lot of
Key
and torch running. Maybe he stays that way, maybe I respec him back to a hammerdin

Thanks everyone for the help and great call on that thread, its excellent advice.

Good luck, and for farming keys you might want to use a Sorceress to run
The Countess
and Summoner, because it will much faster and less tedious. :D
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I found this great guide on isolating
Mephisto
, regardless of build used.

Definitely worth checking out.

7
Enigma to not waste your time running around looking for them, and draculs/Exile to make sure it procs as soon as you start hitting. it turns very easy.
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MintBlancmanche wrote: 11 hours ago
Enigma to not waste your time running around looking for them, and draculs/Exile to make sure it procs as soon as you start hitting. it turns very easy.
OP is offline. Doesn't appear he has a
Ber
or
Jah
yet.

I'm willing to accept other forms of currency. Like Tokens, Keys,
Perfect Gems
, and certain minor runes in lieu of my asking price. I'm also willing to accept rune combinations that add up to my asking price.
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User avatar

BigD 258

Paladin Americas Switch
biswbdiablo2io wrote: 17 hours ago
I play Offline on a Switch, and have a lot of gear. My Holy Grail
Unique armor 87 %
Unique weapons 85 %
Unique other 64 %
Sets 90 %
Runes 79 %

So I should be able to most things I need with the gear I have, and willing to make some rune words as well, I plan to make them all for my grail anyway.

The runes I lack are:
Vex
,
Ohm
,
Lo
,
Ber
,
Jah
,
Cham
,
Zod

The runes I have, I have already 2 at least of everything

I already have a HotH, Enigma and CTA (Lots of Spirit too)

Gear I have been looking at and already have
Dracul's Grasp

Gore Riders
Charms big resists
Stormshield

Hearty Cord
String of Ears

Anidote potions for
Lilith

Cure
Helm


My merc is an ACT2
Prayer
, whom is equipped with Insight, Duress, Bulwark, willing to change him

And I have plenty of Tokens to respec, so I could just respec to a Smiter

So what say you:

Hammerdin:
What other gear would you recommend to above? Willing to make some runewords and grind LK runs if that is the way to go

If you say Smiter, I can look up guides or how to build one and its gear, but feel free to give a link to a guide as well you would recommend
Respec to full Smiter is unnecessary. 1 point into
Smite
and 1 point into
Fanaticism
with enough +skills should be enough, especially if you've got lots of points into
Holy Shield
to synergize your
Smite
dmg.

Dracul's
Gface
Gore Rider

Verdungo's

^all sounds great. Cure
Helm
, no. Antidote potions, helpful, but not 100% mandatory if you already have max poison res.

If you have
Shaftstop
(socketed with
Um
helps too) that works great against
Lilith
. Otherwise CoH, Fortitude, or if you don't have those, Smoke can get the job done. For Uber Meph only make sure you have 300 uncapped Cold and Lightning resist, Fire and Poison dont need to be overcapped as he doesnt have fire dmg and his
Conviction
aura doesnt affect poison res. Treachery to proc
Fade
helps hit 300 uncapped res.

For weapons,
Astreon's Iron Ward
beats Grief PB in
Smite
damage by a very small margin (only when wielded by paladin and when rolled with +4 combat skills) and has 33% CB.

Heaven's Light
also works great (preferably w/ 2x
Shael
runes). If not available Black
Flail
can get the job done.

HoZ is preferable for shield but not 100% mandatory, Spirit can work if in an elite base with decent
Smite
dmg. Or any pally shield with high res auto mod socketed with Pdiamonds if youre really on a budget.

CBF somewhere on your gear, Ravenfrost usually the easiest way.

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User avatar

vued 952

Sorceress Europe PC
+1 for the hybrid smiter. It only costs 2 skills

You won't stand a chance with a hammerdin.

Full respec is not needed if you only want to run Ubers a couple of times.

Also, watch those videos. Otherwise you risk of luring the Ubers to the red portal and block yourself out, leading to a loss of all your keys.

And as mentioned before, make a protected online game. You can also ask an uber veteran to be available as backup just in case.

GL and HF! First time running and bearing the ubers is a great experience.

I've got on SCNL
- Mosaics, Cures, and Hustles
- GG crafted amulets
- Perfect uniques
- Bases
=> member/vued/
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Don't forget the
Salvation
Aura!
It is in many guides not mentioned, because if you have very good gear you don't need it.
But one single point in it already is +60% all resistance.
And since you have + gear it will probably be at something like 80% or even higher.

That helps a lot against Mephis aura - some suggest using the
Conviction
Aura yourself, to "overwrite" the one of Mephi. But you need lvl 21 for that, so a lot of skill points.

And maybe the +Resi with
Salvation
are already enough to get your lightning resistance to 300 or 320 (depending on your max lightning Resistance)

As armor: Sure, Enigma is great - and if you know the layout the
Teleport
is invaluable.

But a more safe option is
Guardian Angel

It increases your max resistance to 90. And if you have
Thundergod's Vigor
as
Belt
, your max lightning resistance is 95% (Probably not needed, but better safe than sorry)

So if you get to 320 All Resistance with
Salvation
, Mephi can't do anything against you.

Your damage becomes "irrelevant", if you need a minute longer or not to defeat him? Who cares.
Then you can switch to Fanatism against
Baal
and Diablo.

Keep in mind, that my suggestions are not the meta, in the sense that other ways are faster.
It is a safe option, that will result on you (probably) never dying and not even needing much potions.

And if you do not plan to run
Uber Tristram
10 times a day, it doesn't matter if the whole process (including farming the brain and the other stuff) takes a few more minutes or not.
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OP
mhlg wrote: 12 hours ago
biswbdiablo2io wrote: 12 hours ago
mhlg wrote: 13 hours ago


Until you have everything you need to roll a Grief a Black is quite sufficient to get you started. The
Herald Of Zakarum
is an excellent shield for smiting. It can be socketed with a
Perfect Diamond
to increase its resists to 69%, and upgraded to increase its damage which makes it near the top of high shield damage for a
Smite
Paladin. If you have on hand or find a
Guillaume's Face
it's another great way to increase crushing blow which is your primary Uber killer, and crushing blow stacks.
Ah, nice good call out on
Guillaume's Face
, I have that as well

At this point I am leaning toward a full respec to a smiter and then do a lot of
Key
and torch running. Maybe he stays that way, maybe I respec him back to a hammerdin

Thanks everyone for the help and great call on that thread, its excellent advice.

Good luck, and for farming keys you might want to use a Sorceress to run
The Countess
and Summoner, because it will much faster and less tedious. :D
I have a high level Sorceress and thought about using her for those runs, though I haven't struggled much with my hammerdin against them. With Enigma I just fly right to them throw some hammers and grab the loot and run again.
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OP
MintBlancmanche wrote: 11 hours ago
Enigma to not waste your time running around looking for them, and draculs/Exile to make sure it procs as soon as you start hitting. it turns very easy.
Oh, I love my Enigma and while you could do all of this without it, running LK until I could make Enigma was worth the grind once I was done
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OP
Knappogue wrote: 11 hours ago
MintBlancmanche wrote: 11 hours ago
Enigma to not waste your time running around looking for them, and draculs/Exile to make sure it procs as soon as you start hitting. it turns very easy.
OP is offline. Doesn't appear he has a
Ber
or
Jah
yet.
Yep, offline, and I do have Enigma, that is where all my
Ber
's went, and so so so so worth it. If my game bugged and I lost Enigma I would be so mad and go right back to LK and grind until I get it again, its that good
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