3/20/20

Pitach wrote: 2 months ago

if you really want to own a 3-20-20 the easiest chance to do so is to buy a 15% ed

Monarch, you put 4 sockets on it, and roll a perfect Spirit with 35 fcr 112 mana and 8 absorb. if the base also has 15% durability, a perfect Spirit in this base costs between 3 and 4 small charms wit h20 hp 5 all resists, which is a bit more in value than a 3-20-20

I can’t even roll the 35 lmaoooo

oOKIWIOo wrote: 2 months ago

TheDoo wrote: 2 months ago

Just grinding, daily, for months and years... I I was hunting for

Lenymo for my little project and it took me about 7 straight hours doing Normal cows,

Blood Raven and

Andariel over and over and over again. I wanted to gouge my eyes out and don't want to repeat that ever again!

This reminds me that I found my first and only

Lenymo from TZ Diablo (!) a few weeks ago. Maybe the "rarest" drop I ever had

Just looked that item up. It doesn’t look that crazy? It’s really rare?

Randall67 wrote: 2 months ago

oOKIWIOo wrote: 2 months ago

TheDoo wrote: 2 months ago

Just grinding, daily, for months and years... I I was hunting for

Lenymo for my little project and it took me about 7 straight hours doing Normal cows,

Blood Raven and

Andariel over and over and over again. I wanted to gouge my eyes out and don't want to repeat that ever again!

This reminds me that I found my first and only

Lenymo from TZ Diablo (!) a few weeks ago. Maybe the "rarest" drop I ever had

Just looked that item up. It doesn’t look that crazy? It’s really rare?

Getting it from Diablo TZ in Hell indeed it is. If it drops at all then mostly in act 1-2 on normal.

Pitach wrote: 2 months ago

if you really want to own a 3-20-20 the easiest chance to do so is to buy a 15% ed

Monarch, you put 4 sockets on it, and roll a perfect Spirit with 35 fcr 112 mana and 8 absorb. if the base also has 15% durability, a perfect Spirit in this base costs between 3 and 4 small charms wit h20 hp 5 all resists, which is a bit more in value than a 3-20-20

You still have to successfully sell that Spirit.
Market is so saturated by items, even perfect, that it's hard to sell them.

Tornado_OLO wrote: 2 months ago

Pitach wrote: 2 months ago

if you really want to own a 3-20-20 the easiest chance to do so is to buy a 15% ed

Monarch, you put 4 sockets on it, and roll a perfect Spirit with 35 fcr 112 mana and 8 absorb. if the base also has 15% durability, a perfect Spirit in this base costs between 3 and 4 small charms wit h20 hp 5 all resists, which is a bit more in value than a 3-20-20

You still have to successfully sell that Spirit.
Market is so saturated by items, even perfect, that it's hard to sell them.

not really
if you are using only diablo.

Io (unfortunately) yes. you might find it difficult to sell, because active players and big traders don't hang around here that much
but there are many trading places

Pitach wrote: 2 months ago

Tornado_OLO wrote: 2 months ago

Pitach wrote: 2 months ago

if you really want to own a 3-20-20 the easiest chance to do so is to buy a 15% ed

Monarch, you put 4 sockets on it, and roll a perfect Spirit with 35 fcr 112 mana and 8 absorb. if the base also has 15% durability, a perfect Spirit in this base costs between 3 and 4 small charms wit h20 hp 5 all resists, which is a bit more in value than a 3-20-20

You still have to successfully sell that Spirit.
Market is so saturated by items, even perfect, that it's hard to sell them.

not really
if you are using only diablo.

Io (unfortunately) yes. you might find it difficult to sell, because active players and big traders don't hang around here that much
but there are many trading places

Why don’t more ppl use this site? It’s awesome. Way better than traderie and others.

I only trade here so far... any hint about what others are?

ken80431 wrote: 2 months ago

I only trade here so far... any hint about what others are?

there is small difference between trade site, some use fg ( jsp ) .
Some with real money, you can move items between difference site and store it in real money.

Basically , for item runes trade,

Perfect Gems is most welcome trade items. Some website use

Jah as main currency but it is not as good as store in cash.

Some people store in cash and get runes after sometime that

Jah runes value drop too much. Others dont want so much trouble, store small

Jah in hand to enjoy game.(small means less than 300

Jah)

There is quick gain in

Jah if you know how to trade big in

Jah/usd, but it need trader to do it right and some trouble not worth .(currently we can see 2-3

Jah = 1 usd trade range) , trouble means, full 40

Jah only worth 20 usd around, it takes forever to make reasonable things. not worth unless for fun.

Randall67 wrote: 2 months ago

How do people get 3/20/20 or 10/76/45 charms? I see people on traderie with like 10+. Like how is that even possible? How are people getting that many

Jah to trade?

Some of us started running Dclones and Ubers more than three years ago. In that time I found several 3/20/20 charms and lots of 3/19/20 and 3/20/19 and a fair number of them were sorc and Paly torches. Selling annis and torches was more profitable back then.
For some the game became more about acquiring than playing but for me it was about facilitating my builds. I quit trading annis and torches for runes when I hit 123

Jah and a fair number of all other high runes runes because collecting more for me seemed pointless.

mhlg wrote: 2 months ago

Some of us started running Dclones and Ubers more than three years ago. In that time I found several 3/20/20 charms and lost of 3/19/20 and 3/20/19 and a fair number of them were sorc and Paly torches. Selling annis and torches was more profitable back then.
For some the game became more about acquiring than playing but for me it was about facilitating my builds. I quit trading annis and torches for runes when I hit 123

Jah and a fair number of all other high runes runes because collecting more for me seemed pointless.

Before I realized that you were referring with the 3/20/20 and following charms to torches I was like

Btw, just curious: what is the reason for the 123

Jah

Cap (e. g. why not 140)? Do you then simply keep the more valuable torches in the shared stash?

oOKIWIOo wrote: 2 months ago

mhlg wrote: 2 months ago

Some of us started running Dclones and Ubers more than three years ago. In that time I found several 3/20/20 charms and lost of 3/19/20 and 3/20/19 and a fair number of them were sorc and Paly torches. Selling annis and torches was more profitable back then.
For some the game became more about acquiring than playing but for me it was about facilitating my builds. I quit trading annis and torches for runes when I hit 123

Jah and a fair number of all other high runes runes because collecting more for me seemed pointless.

Before I realized that you were referring with the 3/20/20 and following charms to torches I was like

Btw, just curious: what is the reason for the 123

Jah

Cap (e. g. why not 140)? Do you then simply keep the more valuable torches in the shared stash?

Wait. The guy is talking about torches?

3/20/20 is not a torch dude. Torches only have 2 rolls, skills are fixed. Torches are referred to by res roll + stat roll + char, eg. 20/20/sorc.

A 3/20/20 is a small charm with 3 max dam, 20 AR, 20 life.

This whole thread has never been about torches.

^ This!

Randall67 wrote: 2 months ago

Pitach wrote: 2 months ago

Tornado_OLO wrote: 2 months ago

You still have to successfully sell that Spirit.
Market is so saturated by items, even perfect, that it's hard to sell them.

not really
if you are using only diablo.

Io (unfortunately) yes. you might find it difficult to sell, because active players and big traders don't hang around here that much
but there are many trading places

Why don’t more ppl use this site? It’s awesome. Way better than traderie and others.

traderie is more viable, faster, and easier to find specific stuff
here you can only find something by name, on traderie u can pinpoint the exact stats

oOKIWIOo wrote: 2 months ago

mhlg wrote: 2 months ago

Some of us started running Dclones and Ubers more than three years ago. In that time I found several 3/20/20 charms and lost of 3/19/20 and 3/20/19 and a fair number of them were sorc and Paly torches. Selling annis and torches was more profitable back then.
For some the game became more about acquiring than playing but for me it was about facilitating my builds. I quit trading annis and torches for runes when I hit 123

Jah and a fair number of all other high runes runes because collecting more for me seemed pointless.

Before I realized that you were referring with the 3/20/20 and following charms to torches I was like

Btw, just curious: what is the reason for the 123

Jah

Cap (e. g. why not 140)? Do you then simply keep the more valuable torches in the shared stash?

I've kept quite a few top charm for my builds and I've also privately and publicly given away quite a few charms. The 123 number is arbitrary and just happened to be where I decided enough is enough.

vued wrote: 2 months ago

oOKIWIOo wrote: 2 months ago

mhlg wrote: 2 months ago

Some of us started running Dclones and Ubers more than three years ago. In that time I found several 3/20/20 charms and lost of 3/19/20 and 3/20/19 and a fair number of them were sorc and Paly torches. Selling annis and torches was more profitable back then.
For some the game became more about acquiring than playing but for me it was about facilitating my builds. I quit trading annis and torches for runes when I hit 123

Jah and a fair number of all other high runes runes because collecting more for me seemed pointless.

Before I realized that you were referring with the 3/20/20 and following charms to torches I was like

Btw, just curious: what is the reason for the 123

Jah

Cap (e. g. why not 140)? Do you then simply keep the more valuable torches in the shared stash?

Wait. The guy is talking about torches?

3/20/20 is not a torch dude. Torches only have 2 rolls, skills are fixed. Torches are referred to by res roll + stat roll + char, eg. 20/20/sorc.

A 3/20/20 is a small charm with 3 max dam, 20 AR, 20 life.

This whole thread has never been about torches.

A Helfire torch can have +3 to all skills, 20 to attributes and 20 to resistances, hence the 3/20/20.

Torch always have 3 class skills
the variations are just class, attributes and resistances
so indicated as

sorc 20/20
ama 16/18
barb 11/19
druid 11/20
...

mhlg wrote: 2 months ago

A Helfire torch can have +3 to all skills, 20 to attributes and 20 to resistances, hence the 3/20/20.

torch.jpg

fredkid wrote: 2 months ago

Torch always have 3 class skills
the variations are just class, attributes and resistances
so indicated as

sorc 20/20
ama 16/18
barb 11/19
druid 11/20
...

mhlg wrote: 2 months ago

A Helfire torch can have +3 to all skills, 20 to attributes and 20 to resistances, hence the 3/20/20.

torch.jpg

The number "3" has never been in contention the original post which was "How do people get 3/20/20 or 10/76/45 charms?" A perfect

Hellfire Torch is a 3/20/20 charm, and 3/20/20 is how they're often advertised. The +3 to skills is always present on a

Hellfire Torch but it is also an identifier. If the op had stated 3/20/20 small charm then a Hellfire Charm wouldn't fit.

What they're saying is that torches aren't usually referred to as 3/N/N, but rather as N/N because the +to skills is always the same value.

It would be like saying you have a 2/27/5

Mara's Kaleidoscope. You only mention the middle number because that's the only one that varies.

With 3/20/20 small charms, all three numbers can vary.

mhlg wrote: 2 months ago

fredkid wrote: 2 months ago

Torch always have 3 class skills
the variations are just class, attributes and resistances
so indicated as

sorc 20/20
ama 16/18
barb 11/19
druid 11/20
...

mhlg wrote: 2 months ago

A Helfire torch can have +3 to all skills, 20 to attributes and 20 to resistances, hence the 3/20/20.

torch.jpg

The number "3" has never been in contention the original post which was "How do people get 3/20/20 or 10/76/45 charms?" A perfect

Hellfire Torch is a 3/20/20 charm, and 3/20/20 is how they're often advertised. The +3 to skills is always present on a

Hellfire Torch but it is also an identifier. If the op had stated 3/20/20 small charm then a Hellfire Charm wouldn't fit.

human_being wrote: 2 months ago

What they're saying is that torches aren't usually referred to as 3/N/N, but rather as N/N because the +to skills is always the same value.

It would be like saying you have a 2/27/5

Mara's Kaleidoscope. You only mention the middle number because that's the only one that varies.

With 3/20/20 small charms, all three numbers can vary.

mhlg wrote: 2 months ago

fredkid wrote: 2 months ago

Torch always have 3 class skills
the variations are just class, attributes and resistances
so indicated as

The number "3" has never been in contention the original post which was "How do people get 3/20/20 or 10/76/45 charms?" A perfect

Hellfire Torch is a 3/20/20 charm, and 3/20/20 is how they're often advertised. The +3 to skills is always present on a

Hellfire Torch but it is also an identifier. If the op had stated 3/20/20 small charm then a Hellfire Charm wouldn't fit.

I get it but the +3 even implied is still an identifier.

I would like to add that initially I was only replying to this part of the OP's first post " How are people getting that many

Jah to trade?," and the 3/20/20

Hellfire Torch reference was to bring home my point.

another option you have is finding small charms in

Terror zone lvl 94-96 and rerolling them with pgems...... 3 pgems per roll and you have a chance to roll some nice small charms that are close to 3/20/20 or even a 3/20/20 itself.

a friend of mine rerolled a 3/18/20 which is still nice and worth many jahs