Started D2R recently, found a few decent tradeables, what should I trade for?

Hi Folks,

Recently picked up D2R about 20 years after last playing D2. Decided to make my first trapsin. Lots of fun with the new mechanic, but finding the damage output is making things slow nowadays. I'm at level 86, having beaten the game.
I'd be looking to upgrade my character (e.g., playing with runewords and self-found currently...no torch, no anni), or think about starting a different one. Current setup for the trapsin is 2xSpirit,

Skin of the Vipermagi, chancies, rare tri-res

Boots with 20frw,

Goldwrap, Lore, +1 assassin skills ammy, and two random rare rings. Merc has

Tal's

Helm, Insight (in a pretty mediocre base), and is using

Leviathan as armor.

Of most value currently, I found a

Cham off of Pindle's minion (why couldn't I be a little less lucky and get a

Jah?) and have about 50PGems (9

Amethyst).

Any advice on how I might proceed? I've been out of the game for a long time and have no real sense of character building or market values anymore.

Thanks for any insights.

If we're talking about most bang-for-your-buck upgrades, a low anni and low assa torch will give you the most. There are even some free anni trades available . Assa torches are also pretty cheap.

Long term, I'd be looking into getting an Enigma as this open up a lot of different builds.

You can get there the fun or efficient way.
Efficient would be to make one or more dedicated farming characters (mostly sorc), or you just play chars that you enjoy until you eventually find the right things.
If you don't have a lot of time, I'd recommend to just go with the fun way, or it can start feeling like a job

Trap assassin
Your thing is around 6

Ist.
You can get free anni, free torch.
Pay 8 pa for 10mm

Gold.
Gameble to get LS blue claw .
Pay 20 pgm to get +2 assassin circle (Not sure about price, if you cant get cheap one, use 3 os

Grand Crown + 3 cheapest Light facet)
Pay 10 pgm to get +2 assassin amulet
Pay 12 pgm + charm to get soj.
Pay all mid-low runes to get another soj. (if not enough, use good rare all resist ring.)

Gloves also have + skill, kind of forget if trap need that. if you need, go to market and get cheapest +2 , no need to care other attribute.

if you hunt enough

Baal, Destruction essence. likely , 50 essence of Destruction to exchange someone with engima.
I havent play trap vs

Baal for a very long time , forget what it looks like to use LS trap to play. Need some LS expert to tell you about this.

Use the price-check tool to get an up-to-date valuation of the items you intend to sell.

There are crap (pardon my French) ton of free annis around due to them being so common nowadays. Personally have 4 or 5 annis left to give out free so if you need one, I got you fam. Though I do play ladder softcore.

PM me for anni, I have them on ladder and also on NL.

My advice: best bang for buck is to go with Mosaic.

With 2x

Gul, 2x

Mal (which u already have in pgems) you can clear any P8 location. If u get skulldor for MF (you can get to 300) or make Hustle armor for FRW.

And to get

Gul

Mal you can just do few forge quests runs.

You can get full budget gear for few ists (more like few pamethysts) or u can just find everything by yourself and that will enable you to farm anything in game.

I know its not trapsin u decided to play. But Mosaic is OP atm.

EDIT: if u switch to Mosaic:

check my build look at "speedy one" or "300MF"
https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/ot2td0qm

max phx strike,

Claws of Thunder, one point into all finishers, 1point bos, 1point

Fade, 1point

Weapon Block. If u will farm diablo - get

Mind Blast (use it on last monsters, pop the seal to start dia spawning animation, kill monster and kill dia - you will not lose charges during dia spawn animation), put remaining points into

Blades of Ice/

Tiger Strike - if u struggle to get charges then put few points into

Claw Mastery.

Get 2x charges on phx strike, 3

Claws of Thunder, 3

Blades of Ice, 3x

Tiger Strike (optional), 3x

Cobra Strike. And then just hold right click with finisher, use

Dragon Claw to jump between pack of monsters to speed up ur killing. With Enigma you can kill every monster including diablo in less than 45sec. Without Enigma probably around 60-90sec (which is still faster than baalruns) once u get used to playing char its very fantastic. Im not gonna lie this build is VERY hard to learn.

Use

Burst of Speed, not

Fade. You should wear Kira

Helm with big up to 70all res you should easily max all resists - socket it with

Topaz for MF.

Join baalruns games and do p8 CS. Join TZ games: best is

Tal Rasha, try to be solo in tomb to get all loot for yourself - noone would blame you for soloing tombs for loot if they go for XP, this TZ is big so they will just make more games - go from other side of tombs, when u meet in middle new game should be created.

Without Enigma you will lose charges here and there, but dont stress about it. If you will have feeling that you will have to run back on same path as you went forward, leave few monsters here and there so you wont lose charges on way back. To get charges up is like 1-2second. When you building ur charges I do recommend to open Character screen and check ur dmg, soon you will know what dmg you will get for each

Charge, after some time you will do automaticly. Also without Infinity on merc, check location if there are light immunes, go

Phoenix Strike 3charges (=cold).

Finishers:
use

Dragon Talon against high hp bosses (diablo),

Dragon Claw for regular monsters (if u play bos,

Dragon Claw has HIGH IAS requirement),

Dragon Tail against light immunes,

Dragon Flight for moving between monsters, so you wont have to run. You wont need to drink at all.

If you will struggle with phx 2charges, go with 3charges, it freezes everything so its super safe, but bit slower.

If you will play this build for few weeks (+/- 50-70hrs of grinding p8 CS) I guarantee you that you will find A LOT of stuff including jahs and bers. If you wont find anything within 50hrs of this insane fast clearing p8 locations I will give you

Ber, but you will find a lot of HR and expensive legendary items!

Ignore all skillers and sunder. DO NOT STRESS ABOUT CHARGES !!! With more experiences in playing Mosaic you will drop charges less and less, then with Enigma you wont lose them never.

Once you get all your gear for trapsin, respec back to trapsin to play what you really like (I assume you chosed trapsin for this reason). But keep in mind, that you might love Mosaic so much, that you would never want to go back to trapsin.

And regarding base? Best are

Runic Talons and all other claw with same design are good!

Someone above recommended to get 50green essences from

Baal to get Enigma. I do recommend Mosaic and you will trade Enigma sooner. I cant imagine to farm

Baal as trapsin to get 50essences.

Mosaic is best
but he probably under budget to get 2 claw in non ladder, also , it is about become unuseable. to this prespective, his thinking of trap style could get him in cheap way before trap thing become very expensive.

I assume that 60% of current Mosaic user have to switch to trap in few months.

to be honest, I havent figure out which claw is best for LS trap. My last play is looking better Ls skill claw. then I start my sorc and play for long long time til now...

My Memory for Mosaic is around 1

Jah nlsc to get both claw and it is before nerf idea release.
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Some china rumor says nerf will go in 3 week from now, and it will be first test in china server, not spread to full

Would suggest building budget-

Berserk-trav-horker if you intend to increase your Wealth and don't mind farming.

first try to get a (bad) Grief for your

Cham
for PGems or in "free" games get the following:

• Bad
  Arreat's Face
• 2x
  Dwarf Star
• Bad
  Annihilus as mentioned
• bad Barb Torch (not that cheap and not that necessary)
• upgraded
  Death's Guard.
  Thundergod's Vigor if u get (second)
  Cham for helmet
• Laying of Hands
• Infernostride
• Stormshield
• Stone or Smoke rw, Chains of Honor would be best
• Any OKish Amus,
  Highlord's Wrath would be best
• 2* +3 Wacries or 2*
  Heart Carver on switch

Max

Berserk
Max

Find Potion
Max

Berserk Synergies
one Point in passives
Max

Find Item

STR/Dex as needed
rest Vita

Should be noted that, according to my experience, the investments payed out after 200-300 runs on average

If non-ladder softcore, PM me for free assassin torch.

Trapsin is weird one though, as you benefit from +skills which many caster gear provides but speed of your trap skills is based on IAS instead of FCR which practically no caster gear provides.

This is why blue

Claws with IAS and +trap skills are BIS, preferably two (put at least 1 point into

Weapon Block if you have two). The more the better but you should probably stick with Spirit/Hoto if you don't have one with IAS and more skills, relying on

Burst of Speed to boost your IAS. Don't forget you'll lose all the other stats on your Spirit/hoto, like the resists, FHR etc.. so you're expected to make up for it with your charms and other gear. I'm not sure how long or how many millions you'd have to gamble to get a decent pair but I'm guessing a lot.

If you don't want to optimize your trapsin, you could go for Mosaic as others have suggested, assuming you're on ladder. This will cost you a lot more to build on non-ladder.

As for prices, you should use the price checker but from my experience:

Non-ladder:
8

Perfect Amethyst =>

Ist
20

Perfect Gems =>

Ist

Cham => 4

Ist

Ladder:
8

Perfect Amethyst =>

Ist
40

Perfect Gems =>

Ist (early ladder)
35

Perfect Gems =>

Ist (mid ladder)
30

Perfect Gems =>

Ist (late ladder)

Cham => not sure, never needed it

Collecting gems is a lot like passive income. I usually only pick up flawless and normal gems, then cube them up to perfect when I have enough. Once I have enough

Perfect Gems for one or more

Ist, I trade them.
If you play enough you will eventually have enough

Ist runes to trade for the high runes you need. Who knows maybe you get lucky rune drop in the meantime

Hey Folks,

Just wanted to say thanks a ton for all the insights. Very different community experience than it was when I was playing as a teenager!

I should have also clarified, this is SC non-ladder usually on the Europe server...was taking my reintroduction to the game rather calmly.

I'll probably stick with upgrading the trapsin build, as it's rather stressful to play most of the time Lay the traps, spam

Psychic Hammer, and wait for

Death Sentry CE to take most of the pack out.
I'll send a PM for one of those free torches (thanks for all the generosity!) and get to doing some trading!

leox wrote: 3 months ago

Mosaic is best
but he probably under budget to get 2 claw in non ladder, also , it is about become unuseable. to this prespective, his thinking of trap style could get him in cheap way before trap thing become very expensive.

I assume that 60% of current Mosaic user have to switch to trap in few months.

to be honest, I havent figure out which claw is best for LS trap. My last play is looking better Ls skill claw. then I start my sorc and play for long long time til now...

My Memory for Mosaic is around 1

Jah nlsc to get both claw and it is before nerf idea release.
----------
Some china rumor says nerf will go in 3 week from now, and it will be first test in china server, not spread to full

He just mentioned its NL now so he obviously cant get to Mosaic, because they would be imho expensive in NL. Anyway to start ladder for Mosaic RW will get you still faster to Enigma, than playing NL trapsin. I was always lazy to grind a lot. And loot I found was always bad - this would be him playing trapsin NL. (I got rich by selling cheap items and rerolling charms or selling pame/rals for

Ist). With Mosaic I did really geared up myself (and my java friend + my enchantress 2nd account) just by self found items and trading runes which I found for those which I didnt.

If you add me now, I browsed traderie and found 2x Mosaic with +3phx for

Ber each from one seller, posted 1hr ago. In NL I can give you 2x

Ber so u can buy them if u want to play Mosaic.

If I scroll more down I am sure you can get better deal.

Another thing concerning Trap Asn: What realy enables a budget Trapsin imo is Crescent Moon Runeword in a

Phase Blade. -35 Lightning resist is HUGE. Combined with

Crack of the Heavens it enables you to clean any content, as you just need to generate 2-3 Corpses for

Death Sentry to kill the rest. And because it's not Best-in-Slot, it should be very easy to get for some Perfect Amethysts. But insist on getting it in a

Phase Blade: Casting traps depends on IAS and not on FCR and PB has the fastest attack speed of all swords

The Flash wrote: 3 months ago

If you add me now, I browsed traderie and found 2x Mosaic with +3phx for

Ber each from one seller, posted 1hr ago. In NL I can give you 2x

Ber so u can buy them if u want to play Mosaic.

If I scroll more down I am sure you can get better deal.

Shoot. I'd love to as that's incredibly generous, but sadly, I'm at work. I really appreciate it though.

Blubbalutsch wrote: 3 months ago

Another thing concerning Trap Asn: What realy enables a budget Trapsin imo is Crescent Moon Runeword in a

Phase Blade. -35 Lightning resist is HUGE. Combined with

Crack of the Heavens it enables you to clean any content, as you just need to generate 2-3 Corpses for

Death Sentry to kill the rest. And because it's not Best-in-Slot, it should be very easy to get for some Perfect Amethysts. But insist on getting it in a

Phase Blade: Casting traps depends on IAS and not on FCR and PB has the fastest attack speed of all swords

Thanks for this! I didn't even know this runeword existed! Shows my ignorance.

if you mean to have faster progress, you should do following:
- make barb for

Travincal council runs 1st (already mentioned before, but save your

Cham for

Stormshield) - AVOID ANY PIECE OF EQUPEMENT WITH COLD DAMAGE!
- 2nd character should be soso for

Key runs (i would choose cold one in

Tal's)
those 2 should be able to feed you so you can make your other characters faster.
- 3rd should be paladin for ubers (will go for zealot or smiter, its your choice)

Travincal council runs are not just good for hr, there is also,

Gold, gems, low runes (that can be collected and sold), small, grand charms, uniques, rare stuff...
be carefull when killing council members, try to spread them around the place (3-4 groups) to avoid stuff dropping on same place which can lead to stuff can't be seen and you will have to clear potions... if anything will be unseen, beleive me, it's hr.

All previous experienced assassin player said is useful...I kind of recall why I look blue claw.

Budget weapon is : blue claw, +1 trap +1 LS x 2 or claw + Spirit. As young trap, + skill is way more important than ias.

This should enough for trav run, and trav run can produce

Perfect Amethyst.

Through

Baal run is current best way . Maybe drop then swap to moon and - L resist shield?

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Also, learn something about how to build bar. Still far for me that I am play this for very short time and close.

Cham value is 2-4 in nl, it takes time to get 4, if you intend to break it , you might want to do list up sooner than later because it takes time to go.

brgljez wrote: 3 months ago

but save your

Cham for

Stormshield

Rationale for doing

Cham in helmet:

• Um in Shield gives +22 Allres, Helmet only 15
• Terrorized
  Travincal 96: You want as much Allres as possible to counter
  Conviction (Think it's around 220, always forget the exact value)
• Resell value of
  Cham'ed Arreat >
  Cham'ed
  Stormshield afaik

Oh and getting Grief should be top-priority, build rly depends on it imo. But thanks for mentioning "no cold damage". I forget about that all the time, especially when it comes to cold damage hiding in charms.

brgljez wrote: 3 months ago

try to spread them around the place (3-4 groups) to avoid stuff dropping on same place which can lead to stuff can't be seen and you will have to clear potions

i use to press f

Key to zoom instead

Blubbalutsch wrote: 3 months ago

i use to press f

Key to zoom instead

tnx for tip, never used it before except when pressed accidentaly.

Blubbalutsch wrote: 3 months ago

Oh and getting Grief should be top-priority, build rly depends on it imo.

Absolutely, even an anti-perfect Grief will do. That's what I ran for thousands of runs.

Blubbalutsch wrote: 3 months ago

brgljez wrote: 3 months ago

but save your

Cham for

Stormshield

Rationale for doing

Cham in helmet:

• Um in Shield gives +22 Allres, Helmet only 15
• Terrorized
  Travincal 96: You want as much Allres as possible to counter
  Conviction (Think it's around 220, always forget the exact value)
• Resell value of
  Cham'ed Arreat >
  Cham'ed
  Stormshield afaik

To add to that, having the

Cham in your helmet also gives you the option of ditching the shield. I never used one for

Travincal personally, first an ali baba socketed with 2

Ist and now a

Phase Blade with 6

Ist runes.
You don't need a

Stormshield (in softcore), just get a Grief, stack fire res, chug potions, don't get surrounded, don't get careless and save/exit if you're in a bad spot or better yet

Teleport out of it if you have Enigma.

brgljez wrote: 3 months ago

AVOID ANY PIECE OF EQUPEMENT WITH COLD DAMAGE!

Blubbalutsch wrote: 3 months ago

But thanks for mentioning "no cold damage". I forget about that all the time, especially when it comes to cold damage hiding in charms.

To add to that, if you want to run a mercenary for trav, your options will be severely limited. Reaper's Toll and Obedience both have cold damage. Also Obedience doesn't have leech. You can give

Tomb Reaver leech by socketing

Amn runes but it has the 10% returned thing. It is better than cold damage because merc would need killing blow for it to have a chance to proc and ruin a corpse. In the end I settled for an ethereal

Bonehew socketed with 2

Amn runes.

Helm and armor are

Kira's Guardian and

Guardian Angel both socketed with

Ral to counter

Conviction. This is the only setup I've found that ticks all the boxes and makes the merc practically immortal in

Travincal unless he takes massive physical damage in short period of time. Fana+might+extra strong/fast usually does that.