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Do damage from DEATH add to Smite damage like GRIEF?

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I'm curious, do damage from Death add to

Smite damage like Grief? I got a Death (

Ettin Axe base) with ~ 500 damage and wonder if my

Smite damage is bigger than the Grief (400 + 38

Phase Blade base)

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LoTra

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LoTra `64`

3 weeks ago (pre-Resurrected)

I'm curious, do damage from Death add to

Smite damage like Grief? I got a Death (

Ettin Axe base) with ~ 500 damage and wonder if my

Smite damage is bigger than the Grief (400 + 38

Phase Blade base)

any of my trades can be converted among:

Ist,

Ral, pam,

Key, pgem
base unit is

Ist
1

Ist = 20

Ral
1

Ist = 20 pgem
1

Ist = 8 pam
1

Ist = 3

Key
1

Ohm = 3

Ist
1

Lo = 4
1

Vex = 2

BigD `83`

3 weeks ago (pre-Resurrected)

The answer is no. "X% enhanced damage" on a weapon doesn't work with

Smite, only flat integer "Damage +X" like Grief (and a couple other weapons, can't recall off top of my head.

LoTra `64`

3 weeks ago (pre-Resurrected)

understood, thanks mate!

any of my trades can be converted among:

Ist,

Ral, pam,

Key, pgem
base unit is

Ist
1

Ist = 20

Ral
1

Ist = 20 pgem
1

Ist = 8 pam
1

Ist = 3

Key
1

Ohm = 3

Ist
1

Lo = 4
1

Vex = 2

ShadowHeart `4216`Moderator

3 weeks ago (pre-Resurrected)

The other weapons that have Damage+ like Grief are:

-

Astreon's Iron Ward
-

The Redeemer
-

Stone Crusher

These all add to

Smite's damage just like the Damage+ from Grief.

%ED from skills and other non-weapon sources (like on Fortitude body armor and Phoenix shield) do work with

Smite.

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https://www.theamazonbasin.com/wiki/index.php/Smite

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LoTra `64`

3 weeks ago (pre-Resurrected)

thanks for explaining, i got it now, but maybe worth to test if Uber Diablo fear Death than Grief

any of my trades can be converted among:

Ist,

Ral, pam,

Key, pgem
base unit is

Ist
1

Ist = 20

Ral
1

Ist = 20 pgem
1

Ist = 8 pam
1

Ist = 3

Key
1

Ohm = 3

Ist
1

Lo = 4
1

Vex = 2

Knappogue `1955`

3 weeks ago (pre-Resurrected)

In a VERY simplified form, damage output is calculated as such:
((A*B)+C)*D
A is weapon base damage
B is the +enhanced damage% on your weapon
C is the +min/+max damage (this is where Grief's flat damage is calculated)
D is the enhanced damage (called off hand enhanced damage) from the rest of your gear and skills, not the weapon
*Remember your order of operations*

However for

Smite and kick damage, +%ED weapon damage (normally group A) is calculated in group D as off hand enhanced damage. But flat damage is still calculated in group C for

Smite and kick.

I'm willing to accept other forms of currency. Like Tokens, Keys,

Perfect Gems, and certain minor runes in lieu of my asking price. I'm also willing to accept rune combinations that add up to my asking price.

fredkid `1504`

3 weeks ago (pre-Resurrected)

From what I understand, % ed on the weapon has no effect on

Smite or kick (it is not considered off-weapon damage for those attacks)

From the

Smite page

The following things do not work with
Smite
...
Enhanced Damage on the weapon.
...

Knappogue wrote: 3 weeks ago
However for
Smite and kick damage, +%ED weapon damage (normally group A) is calculated in group D as off hand enhanced damage. But flat damage is still calculated in group C for
Smite and kick.

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----
Equivalence for trades:

Ist = 1 =

Token of Absolution = 20

Perfect Gems

Pul=0.25 |

Um=0.5|

Mal=0.75

Gul=1.5|

Vex=2 |

Ohm=3 |

Lo=4 |

Sur=5

Ber=7 |

Jah=9 |

Cham=3 |

Zod = 4

Knappogue `1955`

3 weeks ago (pre-Resurrected)

fredkid wrote: 3 weeks ago

From what I understand, % ed on the weapon has no effect on
Smite or kick (it is not considered off-weapon damage for those attacks)

From the
Smite page
The following things do not work with
Smite
...
Enhanced Damage on the weapon.
...

Knappogue wrote: 3 weeks ago
However for
Smite and kick damage, +%ED weapon damage (normally group A) is calculated in group D as off hand enhanced damage. But flat damage is still calculated in group C for
Smite and kick.

You are correct! I was thinking and referring to the +ED% on shield (for v1.11 - does not apply on v1.10 and below). The "weapon" was the shield since with

Smite you are using the shield as the weapon in the animation. But I definitely should have been more specific.

I'm willing to accept other forms of currency. Like Tokens, Keys,

Perfect Gems, and certain minor runes in lieu of my asking price. I'm also willing to accept rune combinations that add up to my asking price.

LoTra `64`

3 weeks ago (pre-Resurrected)

Knappogue wrote: 3 weeks ago
You are correct! I was thinking and referring to the +ED% on shield (for v1.11 - does not apply on v1.10 and below). The "weapon" was the shield since with

Smite you are using the shield as the weapon in the animation. But I definitely should have been more specific.

This is where i saw significant difference in using Phoenix versus Exile, the ED of Phoenix shield multiplies damage of

Smite a lot...

any of my trades can be converted among:

Ist,

Ral, pam,

Key, pgem
base unit is

Ist
1

Ist = 20

Ral
1

Ist = 20 pgem
1

Ist = 8 pam
1

Ist = 3

Key
1

Ohm = 3

Ist
1

Lo = 4
1

Vex = 2

ShadowHeart `4216`Moderator

3 weeks ago (pre-Resurrected)

Yes, Phoenix is the BiS shield for Smiters, at least for raw damage output. You need it to maximize kill speed vs Dclone (only really needed though if you expect to help a lot of people in quick succession after a Dclone walk). Against Ubers it’s much safer with Exile, but as long as you can keep

Life Tap up reliably, you can definitely use Phoenix there too.