Grief - Side by side comparison

Context: My char is hammerdin.

I 'adapted' him do be part-smiter for Ubers and DClone and he does it very wel.
My smiter uses Grief in a 5 socketed

Phase Blade and HoZ.

Now I will try to roll a perfect (as close as it can be) Grief for my char.

My plan is to keep 2 Griefs, and re-roll the worst one until success.
Of course, the params I am looking at are IAS and +Dmg.

My currents are:
Grief 1: 40 IAS , +374
Grief 2: 34 IAS, +398

Question:
Which one is the worst? And for future rerolls, what is the math I should do?

Im really bad at this D2R dmg effectiveness thing.
Thanks

These are the IAS breakpoints for

Smite without

Fanaticism:

0 9
5 8
24 7
65 6

So if you have no additional IAS on your gear, the IAS on your Grief is irrelevant. Same is for when you have a Faith merc, even the lowest IAS Grief would net maximum attack speed. I would keep the 398 one and call it a day. Or try to squeeze 40 IAS out of my gear.

The damage roll has the widest bandwidth. Chances are low, that you get another 390+ with higher IAS.

In numbers: in 57/60 you get a LOWER damage score (95% chance). In 5/10 you get a HIGHER IAS with the next roll (50% chance).

DasNarf wrote: 9 months ago

These are the IAS breakpoints for

Smite without

Fanaticism:

0 9
5 8
24 7
65 6

So if you have no additional IAS on your gear, the IAS on your Grief is irrelevant. Same is for when you have a Faith merc, even the lowest IAS Grief would net maximum attack speed. I would keep the 398 one and call it a day. Or try to squeeze 40 IAS out of my gear.

The damage roll has the widest bandwidth. Chances are low, that you get another 390+ with higher IAS.

In numbers: in 57/60 you get a LOWER damage score (95% chance). In 5/10 you get a HIGHER IAS with the next roll (50% chance).

The breakpoint stuff is really the

Key point, so I'd rather stay happy with the +398. Thanks @DasNarf .

YugoHell wrote: 9 months ago

My plan is to keep 2 Griefs, and re-roll the worst one until success.

...but i hope both bases are superior with at least +10% ed because you can sell even bad rolls for much more than a plain 5os base costs

YugoHell wrote: 9 months ago

Context: My char is hammerdin.

I 'adapted' him do be part-smiter for Ubers and DClone and he does it very wel.
My smiter uses Grief in a 5 socketed

Phase Blade and HoZ.

Now I will try to roll a perfect (as close as it can be) Grief for my char.

My plan is to keep 2 Griefs, and re-roll the worst one until success.
Of course, the params I am looking at are IAS and +Dmg.

My currents are:
Grief 1: 40 IAS , +374
Grief 2: 34 IAS, +398

Question:
Which one is the worst? And for future rerolls, what is the math I should do?

Im really bad at this D2R dmg effectiveness thing.
Thanks

Another point to consider: a

Phase Blade with 30-36% IAS requires a slvl 2

Fanaticism aura to reach 6 FPA (the minimum). With 37-40% IAS, a slvl 1

Fanaticism aura is required instead. In other words, if you have an

Annihilus and are using

Fanaticism, the IAS roll is irrelevant. If you don't plan to use

Fanaticism, the previous reply regarding IAS breakpoints should provide you with the information you need.

worst? I'd say Grief 1 (40 IAS, +374). The +dmg is lower, and IAS isn’t as impactful for smiters compared to raw damage. For rerolls, focus on hitting that +390+ dmg range-IAS is nice, but smiters don’t need it as much. Good luck rolling that perfect Grief! RNG can be brutal, so prepare for some pain.