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currently at lvl 47 in NM (ladder sc), maxed out on
Dragon Talon
and BoS, but not sure if points on BoS are wasted

my current gear:
main weapon: some random rare with 10 ias
gauntlet: random rare with 10 ias
Hustle (armor 40 ias)
Lore, Rhyme, Goblin, random
Belt
and bunch of trash charms, rings and a Mahim-oak

so from gear total 60 ias which is plenty, here's my confusion, so my BoS bonus currently offers +53 attack speed, does this mean I just hit 113 bp on ias?

I don't really know what points to put, some say Venom, I don't even know how to use Venom and is it worth it? I played a trapsin before, trap has much better crowd control although in this playthrough I aim at being a pure kicker, or
Shadow Master
is a better option?

also, I'd like a roadmap on what are the gears to obtain next? piss poor at the moment can't even trade for a g-face, I do wonder should I swap out Hustle for something else (cheap as Hustle)?

thanks
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currently at lvl 47 in NM (ladder sc), maxed out on
Dragon Talon
and BoS, but not sure if points on BoS are wasted

my current gear:
main weapon: some random rare with 10 ias
gauntlet: random rare with 10 ias
Hustle (armor 40 ias)
Lore, Rhyme, Goblin, random
Belt
and bunch of trash charms, rings and a Mahim-oak

so from gear total 60 ias which is plenty, here's my confusion, so my BoS bonus currently offers +53 attack speed, does this mean I just hit 113 bp on ias?

I don't really know what points to put, some say Venom, I don't even know how to use Venom and is it worth it? I played a trapsin before, trap has much better crowd control although in this playthrough I aim at being a pure kicker, or
Shadow Master
is a better option?

also, I'd like a roadmap on what are the gears to obtain next? piss poor at the moment can't even trade for a g-face, I do wonder should I swap out Hustle for something else (cheap as Hustle)?

thanks
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ShadowHeart 2720Moderator

Europe PC
Venom: Skill
is useless and a waste of skill points for online play (it’s still useful offline though).

Online, doing any damage to a target stops both its HP regeneration and any poison damage on it completely for 8 frames.
(Offline it only stops regen & poison for a single frame)

In other words - if you can attack at a rate of once per 8 frames or faster, poison will do nothing for you. Not just Venom, any poison, but since Venom has such a short duration, you can’t even use it to poison something and switch target while the poison works, you’ll only get 2 frames of poison damage out of Venom’s 10 frame duration.

Source:
https://www.reddit.com/r/diablo2/commen ... ?rdt=44133

This was discovered and tested thoroughly by Pavke (the poster of the linked topic), with help from Mysterio and GraceOfGod.

I'm in CET (Central European Time), so that's UTC+1 normally and UTC+2 during DST.
My profile says Ladder, but I play both Ladder and Non-Ladder.
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This is new for me!!!
ShadowHeart wrote: 1 week ago

Online, doing any damage to a target stops both its HP regeneration and any poison damage on it completely for 8 frames.
(Offline it only stops regen & poison for a single frame)

Source:
https://www.reddit.com/r/diablo2/commen ... ?rdt=44133

This was discovered and tested thoroughly by Pavke (the poster of the linked topic), with help from Mysterio and GraceOfGod.

Time Zone: GMT-3
Non-Ladder | Softcore | Expansion
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OP
can you guys review the rest of my gears? a little update, now I have Black and g-face, not sure if going with Crescent Moon + Duress to replace Black and Hustle will be much better?

also still struggling to understand how many points to BoS is enough now I want to put more points into
Death Sentry
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ShadowHeart wrote: 1 week ago
Venom: Skill
is useless and a waste of skill points for online play (it’s still useful offline though).

Online, doing any damage to a target stops both its HP regeneration and any poison damage on it completely for 8 frames.
(Offline it only stops regen & poison for a single frame)

In other words - if you can attack at a rate of once per 8 frames or faster, poison will do nothing for you. Not just Venom, any poison, but since Venom has such a short duration, you can’t even use it to poison something and switch target while the poison works, you’ll only get 2 frames of poison damage out of Venom’s 10 frame duration.

Source:
https://www.reddit.com/r/diablo2/commen ... ?rdt=44133

This was discovered and tested thoroughly by Pavke (the poster of the linked topic), with help from Mysterio and GraceOfGod.
Further down in the discussion you link:

>>>based on my reading of the mechanics described by Aytos, it doesn't seem that the negative regen of psn is coded until the next frame after the hit. Which would mean psn propagating hits like Venom doesn't "self cancel" the psn dmg for 8 frames. <<<
>>>Just tested this (online) with a low base dmg weapon (
Katar
). Based on the dmg #s I'm seeing being inflicted, I highly doubt it is self canceling. <<<
>>>Good to hear. So on first frame the physical damage is applied and on second frame the Venom starts. thefatnfurious should know too <<<

Still bad, just not quite as terrible, especially for Venom.
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so is there a confirmed verdict whether Venom works in online games or not?
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ShadowHeart 2720Moderator

Europe PC
Venom "works". But any damage source other than the Venom hit itself will block Venom's poison for 8 frames (and Venom lasts only 10 frames). It is thus essentially useless in group play, and any summons, minions, mercs, traps, etc will interfere with it.

I'm in CET (Central European Time), so that's UTC+1 normally and UTC+2 during DST.
My profile says Ladder, but I play both Ladder and Non-Ladder.
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