Frenzy IAS main/offhand breakpoints

I know this is a classic question, but it's really making my head spin. Deep googling yields conflicting answers, and a lot of old info from LOD. Figured I'd give it a shot here.

On Reddit I found this calculator, which seems to be the most up to date but I can't make sense of how to use it. https://warren1001.github.io/IAS_Calculator/

I'm just looking for a definitive answer to the following questions:

1. If using dual griefs (assume 30 IAS), how much gear IAS do I need for max

Frenzy speed?
2. The same question if using a 30 IAS PB Grief main hand, and something else offhand (ex a Death

Colossus Sword).

One of my favorite aspects of the

Frenzy barb is the variety of gear you can use, but I'm trying to figure out what

Belt to use, jewel to socket, etc. I used to run Grief/Death back in LOD because I thought it looked cool, but I have no idea how the IAS actually worked out.

Thanks

The Warren calculator is very inconclusive. I encountered the same issue a year ago, and I was told that the only modification made in 2.4 was the fixing of the left-hand bug. Only the Increased Attack Speed (IAS) on the weapon above your gloves is counted. The required IAS varies depending on your

Frenzy level. If you assume a level 25

Frenzy (with

Hellfire Torch,

Annihilus, and

Battle Command), you need 35 IAS to achieve 5 frames per attack—meaning you only need 5 IAS on your equipment when you have a 30% Grief.

For a 30% IAS Grief above gloves and Death in a

Colossus Sword, you need 78 IAS—meaning 48 IAS is required on your equipment.

I compared the results from maxroll.gg (don't forget to set the

Frenzy stacks to maximum) with those from a German calculator (https://planetdiablo.eu/d2dbneu/calcs/s ... edcalc.php), and the results matched perfectly.

lowest roll Grief in a

Phase Blade glove side (off hand does not matter) and level 20

Frenzy-u need 9 ias to reach quickest attack speed

Verband wrote: 1 year ago

I compared the results from maxroll.gg (don't forget to set the

Frenzy stacks to maximum) with those from a German calculator (https://planetdiablo.eu/d2dbneu/calcs/s ... edcalc.php), and the results matched perfectly.

Seeing that is a blast from the past. Miss those times when Indiablo was a thing

I have a

Frenzy barb with two griefs in phase blades and i have been wondering about IAS breakpoints as well. I am reading these posts about calculations and calculators and still don't have a clue what the break points are, could someone share what they are with my setup?

I use this calculator:

https://d2.lc/IAS/

Is it outdated?

Maldoror wrote: 1 year ago

I use this calculator:

https://d2.lc/IAS/

Is it outdated?

Yes, as you can see, you can still choose the primary weapon slot and this changes ias breakpoints. This is outdated.

krathkor wrote: 1 year ago

lowest roll Grief in a

Phase Blade glove side (off hand does not matter) and level 20

Frenzy-u need 9 ias to reach quickest attack speed

Frenzy speed is also depending on secondary weapon base speed.

I understand a little off topic, but once people have already figured out what is the best bundle for WW,

Also counted here are the top 5 bundles of a pair for WW (!!!) its for +- to WW barb:

5th place - BoTD on CB (one hand) 40'624 dps, / 1.5 crush and blow attack per second (CBA);
4th place - Death + Death (with merc from act 1 with Faith)(

Colossus Blade) 91'978 dps with 9 CBA;
3th place - BoTD (main) + Death 75'270 dps 6 CBA (merc 2 act might);
2th place - Grief ( < 34 ias) + Grief - 90'252 dps 3 CBA (merc 2 act might);
1th place - Grief (main 34+ias) + Death 88'134 dps 6 CBA (merc act 2 might can varies from act 1 and act 5 (

Eth

Headstriker + Grief fort + Andariels visage)) but for my opinion, Arab from act 2 -onelove forever

Okay, I think d2r is correct, but if Warren ever updates his calculator, use his. But as it is now, I am having difficulties understanding it. Asked about the difference between his and other calculators this morning:

Verband wrote: 1 year ago

The Warren calculator is very inconclusive. I encountered the same issue a year ago, and I was told that the only modification made in 2.4 was the fixing of the left-hand bug. Only the Increased Attack Speed (IAS) on the weapon above your gloves is counted. The required IAS varies depending on your

Frenzy level. If you assume a level 25

Frenzy (with

Hellfire Torch,

Annihilus, and

Battle Command), you need 35 IAS to achieve 5 frames per attack—meaning you only need 5 IAS on your equipment when you have a 30% Grief.

For a 30% IAS Grief above gloves and Death in a

Colossus Sword, you need 78 IAS—meaning 48 IAS is required on your equipment.

I compared the results from maxroll.gg (don't forget to set the

Frenzy stacks to maximum) with those from a German calculator (https://planetdiablo.eu/d2dbneu/calcs/s ... edcalc.php), and the results matched perfectly.

This is super helpful, thanks. Glad I'm not the only one who finds this opaque. 48 IAS is perfect for the equipment I was hoping to be able to use.

Bass wrote: 1 year ago

I understand a little off topic, but once people have already figured out what is the best bundle for WW,

Also counted here are the top 5 bundles of a pair for WW (!!!) its for +- to WW barb:

5th place - BoTD on CB (one hand) 40'624 dps, / 1.5 crush and blow attack per second (CBA);
4th place - Death + Death (with merc from act 1 with Faith)(

Colossus Blade) 91'978 dps with 9 CBA;
3th place - BoTD (main) + Death 75'270 dps 6 CBA (merc 2 act might);
2th place - Grief ( < 34 ias) + Grief - 90'252 dps 3 CBA (merc 2 act might);
1th place - Grief (main 34+ias) + Death 88'134 dps 6 CBA (merc act 2 might can varies from act 1 and act 5 (

Eth

Headstriker + Grief fort + Andariels visage)) but for my opinion, Arab from act 2 -onelove forever

Interesting... In my very unprofessional testing this also roughly matches up with my experience trying different

Frenzy setups. Mostly wanted Death so I'd have enough CB to actually kill bosses.