Arcane Sanctuary Path

Were maphackers able to see the entire map immediately back in the day?

If so, it would disprove my suspicion that the game does a check for

The Summoner's location as you you explore each branch. (This would be consistent with it seeming to be the last branch much of the time).

It also seems that if I change my routine to test a theory, it works for a few runs before defaulting back to the final branch most of the time.

However, the probable explanation for both these observations is just human perception bias - I'm seeing what I expect to see, at least initially, and when searches take far longer when it's the last branch, it feels like it's happening more frequently.

Lanceor wrote: 10 months ago

Were maphackers able to see the entire map immediately back in the day?

Yes, the maphack can show everything on the map.

So I just did 20 runs with my ladder 3 sorc and the results were interesting. Again, mostly random but with a slight bias but to a different path.

So I'm starting to think it is random, with a bias, and that bias changes for each character.

Lanceor, when I added your data to the sheet we get this:
So with everyone's data it is purely random. So I think it would be interesting to keep track for each of your chars that you run this to see what your bias is and maybe run that first?

I am wondering if...
I am not sure but I think my first normal

Arcane Sanctuary I checked northeast last and found summoner there with my necro.

And with that necro I seem to see him mostly there (but I don't do several runs usually, just one).

Could there be a "Memory"? Or just a feeling ?
As for

Tal tombs, to notice that I saw all glyphs several times, seems full random to me.

If there is some arcane rationale for summoner placement, can you imagine:

1. being in that design meeting
2. being asked to code it
3. accommodating it in the database
4. keeping it a secret

Fun to speculate though!

Its true that if there was something it would likely have been found by now, buuut, it did take until this year for someone to find the act 4 ghost easter egg

A further 10 runs added to my table. I did runs 41-50 in a different order to see if the game "remembers" recent runs.
I've had enough of

Key running for a while - I'm going to do some silly/fun stuff instead for a bit. Maybe even venture outside.

if there is a way to find him its more likely to be in the surroundings of the waypoint (i havent found anything that help)

just like with nihlatak checking the walls for red eyes to know the direction where he is at(even the minimap reveal which way nihlatak is if you know what to look for).

I did 10 runs:

D1 NE. 3
D2 NW. 0
D3 SE. 4
D4 SW. 3

You guys do know that once we have all the data, someone is going to have to calculate the result?

The larger the sample the more accurate the result.

mhlg wrote: 9 months ago

You guys do know that once we have all the data, someone is going to have to calculate the result?

ChatGPT FTW.

osoviejo wrote: 9 months ago

mhlg wrote: 9 months ago

You guys do know that once we have all the data, someone is going to have to calculate the result?

ChatGPT FTW.

You still have to tabulate the data and present it to ChatGPT.

Joking.

I will not contribute to the self-awareness of Skynet.

(If this is a serious thread, I will cease-and-desist.)

osoviejo wrote: 9 months ago

I will not contribute to the self-awareness of Skynet.

(If this is a serious thread, I will cease-and-desist.)

I'm on your side when it comes to AI, and yes I think this is a somewhat serious thread.

The link is still public. If anyone wants to add their data it will be automatically calculated. mhlg I've added your data in.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing

And yes this is a serious thread, as in it's trying to get something figured out, but we all like to have fun.

Here MrLlamaSC explaines why

Arcane Sanctuary is RNG