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Just mfing and minding my own business it seems like the
Ral
rune drops constantly.

This is hell and tz/non-tz. Can anyone tell me if I'm insane or there exists some mathematical explanation?
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Just mfing and minding my own business it seems like the
Ral
rune drops constantly.

This is hell and tz/non-tz. Can anyone tell me if I'm insane or there exists some mathematical explanation?
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Necrarch 2072Moderator

Necromancer Europe PC
It's one of the most likely runes to drop in general (you have tables for that).

And if you see them so much, realize you're lucky : it's the most valuable low rune (around 20 per
Ist
), so just hoard and resell them ;)

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Main: Necromancer / Second: Assassin / Third: Amazon / Check my stash, my crafts and my many cheap
Annihilus
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ghostpos wrote: 1 year ago
Just mfing and minding my own business it seems like the
Ral
rune drops constantly.

This is hell and tz/non-tz. Can anyone tell me if I'm insane or there exists some mathematical explanation?
as it was pointed out im so super happy to get it ... i hope ur message was nto to complaint about it , personally i do believe they dont fall enough lol :) my season compare to last is terrible in term of loot , if i was able to do a little something on my barb its mostly because of
Ral
sell ...
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Constantly compared to what? Maybe it is just a cognitive bias, since Rals (among other uses) are used in bulk to craft Caster Amulets, which make them (relatively) valuable, so you subconsciously pay attention when one drops?
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it's rng.

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OP
This is why I bring the topic up because it's obviously a combination of RNG and 'tables' as Necrarch stated. Can anyone provide a link to the tables?

I don't normally craft so that's probably the reason I feel flooded by them versus never having enough lol.
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ghostpos wrote: 1 year ago
Just mfing and minding my own business it seems like the
Ral
rune drops constantly.

This is hell and tz/non-tz. Can anyone tell me if I'm insane or there exists some mathematical explanation?
Ha! Because game wants you to sell your
Ral
runes for
Ist
!

20
Ral
= 1
Ist
!

And 14-15
Ral
in your pocket and you grab 1
Ber
!
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I always felt the same way about
Flawless Amethyst
. I feel like I am getting more of those than the others. Diamonds and emeralds are close enough behind. Then I thought that maybe it's an in game thing, that it tracks the total amount of each gem and because those are used in crafting and upping it throws back more of those. But I think that
Perfect Gems
are the most used after all in rolling Grand Charms. Plus, guys at Blizzard are lazy enough to not use quality of life changes in game. So it must be just RNG plus cognitive bias.

All my trades are Non Ladder.
My current work schedule is very chaotic, so I'll be available for trade mostly on weekends.


Rates:
Hel
= 7
Perfect Gems

Perfect Amethyst
= 4
Perfect Gems

Ral
= 3
Perfect Gems

Perfect Skull
= 2
Perfect Gems
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Necrarch 2072Moderator

Necromancer Europe PC
It's in French but numbers are rather obvious :

https://diablo2.judgehype.com/news/nouv ... es-120176/

Dates back from a previous change but the new (left value, one over XXX) ones should still be accurate as far as I remember.

Ral
: 1/13
Only
Ort
and
Tal
(1/8.7) and
Eth
(1/12.4) are more likely,
Thul
1/13 like
Ral
.

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Main: Necromancer / Second: Assassin / Third: Amazon / Check my stash, my crafts and my many cheap
Annihilus
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Schnorki 3801Moderator

PC
Necrarch wrote: 1 year ago
It's in French but numbers are rather obvious :

https://diablo2.judgehype.com/news/nouv ... es-120176/

Dates back from a previous change but the new (left value, one over XXX) ones should still be accurate as far as I remember.

Ral
: 1/13
Only
Ort
and
Tal
(1/8.7) and
Eth
(1/12.4) are more likely,
Thul
1/13 like
Ral
.
Not sure just how accurate that table still is today but for those looking at it, keep in mind that that's not your actual odds of dropping said runes on each kill but your odds of said runes relative to one another (with slight rounding). I.e. "out of 13 rune drops on average, 1 will be a
Ral
" (ignoring how many kills it takes to get those 13 rune drops). Actual drop rates are obviously far lower. Also, the overall accuracy of those ratios (assuming they're still up to date to begin with) only applies to mobs without special factors impacting them (so not countess for example) and that can drop every rune up through
Zod
.

That having been said, comparing to current drop calcs the overall order of the ratios still seems to hold at least. So to save folks some surfing and translation work, here's the same table reworked and sorted by relative odds:
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More importantly, it now costs 30 Rals(ladder) for an
Ist
. And
Ber
is 22 Ists.

It is taking much longer to get that first
Ber
scavenging.
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lscottl wrote: 1 year ago
More importantly, it now costs 30 Rals(ladder) for an
Ist
. And
Ber
is 22 Ists.

It is taking much longer to get that first
Ber
scavenging.
I just see 20
Ral
for an
Ist
Games.
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ghostpos wrote: 1 year ago
Just mfing and minding my own business it seems like the
Ral
rune drops constantly.

This is hell and tz/non-tz. Can anyone tell me if I'm insane or there exists some mathematical explanation?
I wish I had your luck! I burn through
Ral
's because I craft a bunch, so i constantly have to buy 20
Ral
for an
Ist
lol.
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Greys_Prey wrote: 1 year ago
lscottl wrote: 1 year ago
More importantly, it now costs 30 Rals(ladder) for an
Ist
. And
Ber
is 22 Ists.

It is taking much longer to get that first
Ber
scavenging.
I just see 20
Ral
for an
Ist
Games.
Oh, good. Maybe the market is correcting.
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lscottl wrote: 1 year ago
More importantly, it now costs 30 Rals(ladder) for an
Ist
. And
Ber
is 22 Ists.

It is taking much longer to get that first
Ber
scavenging.
Inflation is tough these days :/
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Sure is.
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ghostpos wrote: 1 year ago
Just mfing and minding my own business it seems like the
Ral
rune drops constantly.

This is hell and tz/non-tz. Can anyone tell me if I'm insane or there exists some mathematical explanation?
In the end, this is the genius of Blizzard North code at the core of D2, and of course, D2r.

You don't need
Ral
, so it rains them.

Another chap will be needing
Ral
, and he gets Tals. Blizzard North, real men of genius.

I am collecting
Amn
(supposedly 40 for an
Ist
). I find Thuls. Lots. 3 x
Thul
+
Chipped Topaz
equals
Amn
.
Do you think I am finding any
Chipped Topaz
? Of course not, because I need then. All other chips but
Topaz
pass my way.

When you are doing TZ and bypass all the dropped amulets(100s of them) because you know you have to be lvl92 to craft
possible GG, so they are worthless. So you save up your
Ral
, your
Perfect Amethyst
, waiting for 92. Boom, you are there.

Now, because I am looking for TZ amulets for crafting, I am lucky to find one amulet every 3 or 4 runs.

The vendetta subroutine in the code is a work of art.
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OP
Haha, well stated lscottl!
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