Has the 125 IAS breakpoint for Berserk with BAs been changed, or what is happening?

Hi guys. I've got a question about Berserk:

I have a WW barb that dumps all his remaining points into Berserk and synergies. My normal setup is: 400 31 Grief BA, Beast BA, Enigma, 40ed 8str Arreat's, Highlords, LoH, String of Ears, Gore Riders, Ravenfrost, Dual Leech. - That leaves me with 71 IAS on my main hand plus 29 from lvl 9 Fanaticism Aura, so that should be a total of 100 IAS for my main hand while using Berserk. (Merc has Reapers, Andy and Fortitude)

While setting up for a max IAS dual BA Death build, I chose another Arreat's with IAS ED jewel and Nosferatu instead of String of Ears and figured that I could use this setup for maxing out 125 IAS for Berserk with Grief+Beast. (31 Grief, 20 LoH, 20 Highlords, 15 Arreat's, 10 Nosferatu and 29 from lvl 9 Fanaticism aura should add up to 125.)

The "problem" is: Nothing changes. Tried adding an EBOTD BA on top instead of Grief, but still no faster attacks than with 100 IAS on my normal gear.

Has the Berserk IAS breakpoint for BAs been lowered? What is it that I am missing here?^^

i think u forgot to count the lvl 9 Fanaticism...
with 31 ias on Grief u only need 13 ias more to reach 9 frames

krathkor wrote: 3 years ago

i think u forgot to count the lvl 9 Fanaticism...
with 31 ias on Grief u only need 13 ias more to reach 9 frames

Nice. Thanks. So I won't need a Ruby jewel of fervor. Good news. =D

The thing about Fanaticism, much like Burst of Speed is that it isn't just flat IAS.

Yes, a zerker approach with BA would want 125 IAS to hit 9 frames.
Yes, lvl 9 Fanaticism adds 29% attack speed.

The resulting IAS still needed however isn't 125 - 29 = 96 but is actually 44 because Fanaticism basically adjusts your IAS breakpoints down, allowing you to reach the same breakpoint targets with lower total absolute added IAS.

So yeah, between your Beast, Grief and Highlord's, you are already more than covered. The LoH is already entirely redundant in terms of the IAS.

Calculator I use is same as krathkor's
with fana without fana I never thought to use off hand weapon for boosting main weapon dmg. When I use dual weapon on my barb using single weapon dmg, then offhand is 6x Lem cb or 6x Ist cb.

Wouldnt it be better to use lets say botd as main hand, get 125IAS (arreat + 15IAS jewel, highlord, LoH, Goldwrap) with Grief on offhand boosting dmg even more than some 186% ED on fana (I am not 100% sure about Grief, if it boosts main weapon dmg) - or just wield dual handed weapon to boost even more dmg - if there is any weapon with 125frames.

The Flash wrote: 3 years ago

Wouldnt it be better to use lets say botd as main hand, get 125IAS (arreat + 15IAS jewel, highlord, LoH, Goldwrap) with Grief on offhand boosting dmg even more than some 186% ED on fana (I am not 100% sure about Grief, if it boosts main weapon dmg)

Grief's +dmg gets rolled into the weapon damage for calculation. It hence only applies to Grief itself (well, or things like Smite which don't technically use the weapon but count +dmg from it) but it would not boost the dmg of a different mainhand weapon.

Schnorki wrote: 3 years ago

The thing about Fanaticism, much like Burst of Speed is that it isn't just flat IAS.

Yes, a zerker approach with BA would want 125 IAS to hit 9 frames.
Yes, lvl 9 Fanaticism adds 29% attack speed.

The resulting IAS still needed however isn't 125 - 29 = 96 but is actually 44 because Fanaticism basically adjusts your IAS breakpoints down, allowing you to reach the same breakpoint targets with lower total absolute added IAS.

So yeah, between your Beast, Grief and Highlord's, you are already more than covered. The LoH is already entirely redundant in terms of the IAS.

Thank you. That sums it up nicely. =) Haven't been using Beast before. Tested p8 cs seal runs and trav with every ba combination of Grief, Beast, ebotd and edeath for a while. Grief+Beast performed a lot better than dual Grief setup because of the faster Berserk breakpoint and AR. Not sure about Last Wish ... Don't want to give up Act 2 Might Reaper merc and Highlords+Gore+Gface+Death is already 100% CB and DS for much less.