So my very first Ber dropped yesterday...

Was just doing some offhand Pindle farming in Ladder to level my assassin before taking on Hell

Baal. On one hand, I feel like this is a

Rite of Passage because, yanno, THE high rune finally dropped. Buuuuuuut...

Now that I have it, I'm not sure what to do with it. I'm thinking of building the Requisite Enigma but working up a

Jah might take a while. I COULDS finally get my Sorc her Infinity, but that needs another

Ber and and probably not as useful for a Cold Sorc as finally getting an Enigma.

Runeword, sell it? Not sure. I THINK most of my builds are good if most aren't BiS.

Any thoughts/suggestions?

It depends a lot on where you are in your builds actually and what you build.

On my side, I have a list of what I miss and how I prioritize those, so my answer would be "check the 2 or 3 next items in my buy list and see what I wanna buy / build with this".

Cold sorc is probably not the one needing most Infi if you have a sunder. However a

Ber should put you quite close to Chains of Honor if you want this.

Enigma is just a wonder for many builds like Hammerdin, mostly any necro, and many others, so it would instinctively be my first idea.

Sin is probably not the one needing it most due to BoS being great, but if you're more about

Fade and traps, it would definitely be good as well.

Finally, if you don't have Annis (well for that one get a Free one, there are tons now!) Torch and

Gheed for your chars, that may be the first pick as well.

And overall, it's your choice and it cannot be too wrong.

Congrats and good luck !

Congratulations.

I don't have anything else to add.

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I thought of something I wanted to add.

Necrarch wrote: 1 year ago

Finally, if you don't have Annis (well for that one get a Free one, there are tons now!) Torch and

Gheed for your chars, that may be the first pick as well.

I might get hammered for this by some--probably not here--people, but I'd suggest that you not spend your

Ber on a Torch... or even three or four. You can get nice torches for a

Vex all day long. The difference between a

Vex

Hellfire Torch and a

Ber

Hellfire Torch is barely noticeable unless you are already at 99% gearing.
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Absolutely, you're right. Was meaning to split the

Ber and buy a medium one for

Vex. Sins one are super cheap (got a high one for

Vex), sorcs are much more expensive, but torches are definitely game changers. Same for

Gheed's, a low one (or free one) is waaaay better than none .

Necrarch wrote: 1 year ago

Absolutely, you're right. Was meaning to split the

Ber and buy a medium one for

Vex. Sins one are super cheap (got a high one for

Vex), sorcs are much more expensive, but torches are definitely game changers. Same for

Gheed's, a low one (or free one) is waaaay better than none .

Oh, okay. Then yeah, I agree with you.

And I've noticed and experienced that as well, and I'm not entirely sure why that is the case. I spent four times as much on my Sorceress

Hellfire Torch than the Assassin... which is also better.

The

Annihilus,

Hellfire Torch,

Gheed's Fortune charm combination really does make quite a difference.

The reason is simply because there are a least 5x more sorceresses than sins in the game and they all need a torch.

Oh, I already have pretty decent Assassin, Paladin (near perfect, dropped in my first solo

Uber Tristram!), and Amazon torches. A sorc torch would be lovely, but I'm not worried too much about it yet.

Atrele wrote: 1 year ago

Oh, I already have pretty decent Assassin, Paladin (near perfect, dropped in my first solo

Uber Tristram!), and Amazon torches. A sorc torch would be lovely, but I'm not worried too much about it yet.

In that case, I'd second the suggestion to follow through on saving up for Engima.

I can't speak for those three, but I have an Enigma in my Necromancers stash for grinding and finding adventures. For certain area combinations, it is a huge time saver for the Necromancer.

You can even move it back and forth depending on mood or whatever until you accumulate more Wealth.

Nec already touched on this but just for emphasis:
Do not, neither first nor ever, blow your

Ber on an Infinity for a cold sorc. EVER.

A cold sorc can push any target to -100 res with

Cold Mastery alone, typically without ever even coming close to having to max CM once you get some gear on her. As a result,

Conviction (and by extension Infinity) are completely wasted on her as -100 is the hard

Cap for negative resistances. All the aura will still do is improve your merc's hit chance (due to dropping defense), effectively making it an overpriced solid but far from BiS damage stick for him. Don't do that.

Infinity for your assassin on the other hand - assuming she's a trapper - is actually a massive damage boost. Though I would argue that she will gain far more from an Enigma than she will from Infinity initially so I'd focus on saving up for that first.

The alternative is of course to indeed break the

Ber into lower runes and to buy honestly nearly everything else your sin + sorc will want (minus top-end bits like a solid

Death's Fathom). Though personally, I'd focus on Enigma for the sin first, even if that does make the

Ber just sit around for now. The gain from your first Enigma is just game changingly massive.

Schnorki wrote: 1 year ago

A cold sorc can push any target to -100 res with

Cold Mastery alone, typically without ever even coming close to having to max CM once you get some gear on her. As a result,

Conviction (and by extension Infinity) are completely wasted on her as -100 is the hard

Cap for negative resistances. All the aura will still do is improve your merc's hit chance (due to dropping defense), effectively making it an overpriced solid but far from BiS damage stick for him. Don't do that.

Infinity for your assassin on the other hand - assuming she's a trapper - is actually a massive damage boost. Though I would argue that she will gain far more from an Enigma than she will from Infinity initially so I'd focus on saving up for that first.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. She has 72%

Cold Rupture, 25 in CM... does she really need

Conviction that badly?

On the other hand, you're absolutely right about the Assassin, especially since I AM running a trapper. I think the Enigma might be more useful though, and easily shared should I need.

Atrele wrote: 1 year ago

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. She has 72%

Cold Rupture, 25 in CM... does she really need

Conviction that badly?

I don't know if you are making the same mistake I made at first, but I'd like to say just in case that the sunder charms rating--here being -72--is the penalty you face for having them in your inventory not the reduction enemies face by them.

phantomotap wrote: 1 year ago

Atrele wrote: 1 year ago

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. She has 72%

Cold Rupture, 25 in CM... does she really need

Conviction that badly?

I don't know if you are making the same mistake I made at first, but I'd like to say just in case that the sunder charms rating--here being -72--is the penalty you face for having them in your inventory not the reduction enemies face by them.

Oh I know. <3 Pain in the ass, but manageable.