Ubers Help(again)

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wvgcswiglett wrote: 1 year ago

Wow. okay yeah 100 damage is a lot especially since i kick him 5 times and multiple of my charges will cause this.... And it is even harder to deal with in p3(me, my friend and a mule that is there in case we need to exit and save our corpses)

If I'm not mistaken, cold res is not my highest stat, shuold be nearing 75% but I don't have any absorb x cold damage or any other attribute that would help against Baal.

Any idea how I could mitigate this?

Pretty sure kicksins need a Raven Frost. But thawing potions give you +50 cold res and +10 max cold res. Just chug a few.

wvgcswiglett wrote: 1 year ago

BigD wrote: 1 year ago

My Frenzy Barb clears ubers reliably and quickly (not nearly as quickly as my Smiter Pally but he gets it done without much difficulty nonetheless) and his setup consists of:

Gface with IAS+AR jewel
Chains of Honor + Thundergod's (sometimes I'll swap to Duress + Blood crafted Belt after Uber Meph is killed, which is also an option if you can't afford CoH or Tgods or need more CB+OW)
Grief + Kingslayer
Laying of Hands
Angelic Wings & Halo
Ravenfrost
Gore Riders

Bunch of FHR / +dmg/+AR charms which are Key to this build.
And then quite a few Sapphire/Amber charms of Vita/FHR.

Think his AR is around 15-17k after Demon Limb buff and cold and lightning res are at 240ish before Fade proc.

Smiter Pally uses:

Gface socketed w/IAS + lightning res jewel

Um'd Guardian Angel

Kingslayer or Grief (kind of prefer the former for Ubers on this build)

Um'd and upgraded HoZ

Tgods

Gore Riders

Blood crafted gloves (i was able to roll a pair of with 20% IAS and 10% CB finally just recently) , haven't been able to find Drac's as of yet. Doesn't seem like a huge issue to find them as my Smiter rips through Ubers in like 5 min or less but I wouldn't complain if they fell into my lap.

I have pretty much the same setup for Frenzy barb except with Highlord's Wrath and an extra Bul-Kathos Wedding band instead of the angelic amulet and ring. I have an inventory full of AR grand charms but honestly idk why, last time i did this, it took a REALLY long time as I almost never hit the uber bosses.

My smiter din is lacking on resists because i am not using the Herald Of Zakarum and not using Guardian Angel - In place, i have Chains of Honor during Meph's fight and Enigma to Teleport around the mini ubers, and Eth Exile for my shield.

I might use Hoz for the extra survivability, i just don't know if that will lengthen the time it takes by a ton

Might have to invest more points into dexterity for the Frenzy Barb. Keep enough strength to equip your gear and make sure you can swap gear without things turning red while equipped, and then after maxing out your skill tree just pump points into dexterity until you have minimum 10k (again,before any buffs from Demon Limb etc). Might mean you end up with 4k life instead of 5k after Battle Orders buffs but shouldn't matter i don't think.

Iirc my Frenzy Barb has 115 base strength (cant recall what it ends up at), 4100-4200 life points after buffs and his health points is never an issue during Uber battles.

Lot of times I find that AR small charms give more AR for the equivalent amount of space than GCs. Maybe farm some charms from Flayer Jungle if you cant trade for some? I use lots of Fine Small Charm of Vita/FHR.

Smiter pally using HoZ instead of Exile shouldn't take noticeably longer to cut down any of the Ubers i wouldn't think. If you're worried about that maybe consider upgrading HoZ to Zakarum Shield (adds alot of Smite damage) and make sure your Smite and Holy Shield are both maxed for max possible Smite dmg. My smiter shreds them all quick (probably under 5 min for Uber Trist) with upgraded HoZ and I dont even think I have Holy Shield maxed out, I think its at 11 or 12 or whatever it took to hit 75% block chance because I had lots into Zeal+ Sacrifice (because it helped tear through WSK) and still haven't respec'd him since finishing Hell, lol.

departure wrote: 1 year ago

wvgcswiglett wrote: 1 year ago

Wow. okay yeah 100 damage is a lot especially since i kick him 5 times and multiple of my charges will cause this.... And it is even harder to deal with in p3(me, my friend and a mule that is there in case we need to exit and save our corpses)

If I'm not mistaken, cold res is not my highest stat, shuold be nearing 75% but I don't have any absorb x cold damage or any other attribute that would help against Baal.

Any idea how I could mitigate this?

Pretty sure kicksins need a Raven Frost. But thawing potions give you +50 cold res and +10 max cold res. Just chug a few.

100% I feel like any attack build doing Ubers needs a Ravenfrost. The +AR, CBF, and Cold Absorb is unbeatable for this purpose if u ask me. I use Ravenfrost plus the Angelic combo and it works great.

fredkid wrote: 1 year ago

Why do you need a mule?
(if you and your friend do not leave the game at the same time the game will never be deleted)

wvgcswiglett wrote: 1 year ago

Wow. okay yeah 100 damage is a lot especially since i kick him 5 times and multiple of my charges will cause this.... And it is even harder to deal with in p3(me, my friend and a mule that is there in case we need to exit and save our corpses)

Yeah, sometimes accidents happen(it has happened before so i dont want to risk it)

BigD wrote: 1 year ago

departure wrote: 1 year ago

wvgcswiglett wrote: 1 year ago

Wow. okay yeah 100 damage is a lot especially since i kick him 5 times and multiple of my charges will cause this.... And it is even harder to deal with in p3(me, my friend and a mule that is there in case we need to exit and save our corpses)

If I'm not mistaken, cold res is not my highest stat, shuold be nearing 75% but I don't have any absorb x cold damage or any other attribute that would help against Baal.

Any idea how I could mitigate this?

Pretty sure kicksins need a Raven Frost. But thawing potions give you +50 cold res and +10 max cold res. Just chug a few.

100% I feel like any attack build doing Ubers needs a Ravenfrost. The +AR, CBF, and Cold Absorb is unbeatable for this purpose if u ask me. I use Ravenfrost plus the Angelic combo and it works great.

Yup! I run Raven Frost on all my chars other than Fury druid, where i use 2 AR + STR + RES rings because the Metamorphosis pelt already gives me Cannot Be Frozen

Angelic Wings
Angelic Halo

My Frenzy barb : https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/hu7150ay

Nothing crazy but 9k AR without angelic and Enchant prebuff.
I just switch Enigma for Chains of Honor for Ubers.

wvgcswiglett wrote: 1 year ago

If I'm not mistaken, cold res is not my highest stat, shuold be nearing 75% but I don't have any absorb x cold damage or any other attribute that would help against Baal.

Any idea how I could mitigate this?

wvgcswiglett wrote: 1 year ago

Yup! I run Raven Frost on all my chars other than Fury druid, where i use 2 AR + STR + RES rings because the Metamorphosis pelt already gives me Cannot Be Frozen

So then you do have 20 cold absorb. I'm a little surprised with near max cold res and 20 sorb you're struggling with cold damage. I'm not sure that's what's taking you down.

departure wrote: 1 year ago

wvgcswiglett wrote: 1 year ago

If I'm not mistaken, cold res is not my highest stat, shuold be nearing 75% but I don't have any absorb x cold damage or any other attribute that would help against Baal.

Any idea how I could mitigate this?

wvgcswiglett wrote: 1 year ago

Yup! I run Raven Frost on all my chars other than Fury druid, where i use 2 AR + STR + RES rings because the Metamorphosis pelt already gives me Cannot Be Frozen

So then you do have 20 cold absorb. I'm a little surprised with near max cold res and 20 sorb you're struggling with cold damage. I'm not sure that's what's taking you down.

Oh yeah! Forgot that Raven's had that stat.

Honestly yeah then idk why. what happens was that i got all my charges(2 on Cobra Strike, 2 on Phoenix Strike, 3 on all of them, none on Fists of Fire), and kicked Baal. I was left with 150 hp after I kicked him.

I am not 100% of what the reason is either..

wvgcswiglett wrote: 1 year ago

Honestly yeah then idk why. what happens was that i got all my charges(2 on Cobra Strike, 2 on Phoenix Strike, 3 on all of them, none on Fists of Fire), and kicked Baal. I was left with 150 hp after I kicked him.

I am not 100% of what the reason is either..

What level is your Fists of Fire? If its lvl33 or higher it converts ALL of your damage to fire. This means you are no longer dealing physical damage and can no longer leech.

Also what finisher are you using? If you're using Dragon Tail then don't use Fists of Fire. Dragon Tail needs physical damage and if you convert too much physical damage to fire damage it tanks your Dragon Tail effectiveness.

Tornado_OLO wrote: 1 year ago

My Frenzy barb : https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/hu7150ay

Nothing crazy but 9k AR without angelic and Enchant prebuff.
I just switch Enigma for Chains of Honor for Ubers.

Nice. I was using Death+Beast berserker axes at one point. (No Grief because I needed the OW somewhere and had no Gore Rider at the time).

9k AR before buffs i was doing mostly ok against Uber Meph (well, all of them except Uber Baal). Uber Baal wasn't a huge danger or nearly killing me, it was just too grindy/time consuming for my liking and his mobs were piling up too much. That's why I ended up respec'ing to get 10k before buffs and then switched to Angelic combo (seems to do better than a low roll Mara's and a random yellow ring with +AR & dual leech and conventional life+mana leech seems pretty useless in Ubers anyway). And again having 4k life instead of 5k doesn't seem to make any difference.

Knappogue wrote: 1 year ago

wvgcswiglett wrote: 1 year ago

Honestly yeah then idk why. what happens was that i got all my charges(2 on Cobra Strike, 2 on Phoenix Strike, 3 on all of them, none on Fists of Fire), and kicked Baal. I was left with 150 hp after I kicked him.

I am not 100% of what the reason is either..

What level is your Fists of Fire? If its lvl33 or higher it converts ALL of your damage to fire. This means you are no longer dealing physical damage and can no longer leech.

Also what finisher are you using? If you're using Dragon Tail then don't use Fists of Fire. Dragon Tail needs physical damage and if you convert too much physical damage to fire damage it tanks your Dragon Tail effectiveness.

Well, im not charging Fists of Fire, so it shouldn't matter either way...

But for context, my Fists of Fire is around level 20

wvgcswiglett wrote: 1 year ago

Knappogue wrote: 1 year ago

wvgcswiglett wrote: 1 year ago

Honestly yeah then idk why. what happens was that i got all my charges(2 on Cobra Strike, 2 on Phoenix Strike, 3 on all of them, none on Fists of Fire), and kicked Baal. I was left with 150 hp after I kicked him.

I am not 100% of what the reason is either..

What level is your Fists of Fire? If its lvl33 or higher it converts ALL of your damage to fire. This means you are no longer dealing physical damage and can no longer leech.

Also what finisher are you using? If you're using Dragon Tail then don't use Fists of Fire. Dragon Tail needs physical damage and if you convert too much physical damage to fire damage it tanks your Dragon Tail effectiveness.

Well, im not charging Fists of Fire, so it shouldn't matter either way...

But for context, my Fists of Fire is around level 20

Ahh yes. I read "none of them" as "one of them".