Question about Breath of the Dying

Hi D2 community !
Question about Breath of the Dying!

will Bramble up a

Poison Nova dmg from Breath of the Dying, if, for example, we give

Frenzy from act 5:

1. Dual Breath of the Dying (on PB) , 50% Chance To Cast Level 20

Poison Nova When You Kill An Enemy * 2 = 100% Chance To Cast on

Phase Blade
2. Bramble (for UP dmg from

Poison Nova) => this is actually the question of whether it will increase the damage <=
3.

Arreat's Face or Cure I play non ladderer so

Arreat's Face or

Guillaume's Face

I have 2

Zod runes lying around and a Bramble, I want to try to give my measure that goes with poison necro.
Has anyone tried to make such a merc? I'm going to test, I didn't find any information on the Internet, maybe someone knows, maybe there is something to see about this?

For your first point that's not how it works. The 50% work for each weapon individual and are not added together. So with two times Breath of the Dying you get 50% chance to cast psn

Nova (with one you would have an effective chance of only 25%).

edit: Forget that. I was thinking about chance to cast on attack or strike but botd has chance to cast when you kill an enemy. Not sure how that works.
edit2: Seems it works the same. So my first guess was correct. Thanks @ShadowHeart for the clarification.

atari wrote: 7 months ago

For your first point that's not how it works. The 50% work for each weapon individual and are not added together. So with two times Breath of the Dying you get 50% chance to cast psn

Nova (with one you would have an effective chance of only 25%).

why does it work with Mosaic and does not work with BoTD ? main is no stack or no stack chance to proc

Poison Nova, main is buffup from Bramble

Poison Nova or not

Because Mosaic is not a Chance to Cast (CtC) effect.

When you have % Chance to Cast on a weapon, it only applies when that weapon is swung. Some effects, when appearing on weapons, only apply when that weapon is swung (like CtC on Attack/Striking/Kill, but also Crushing Blow, Deadly Strike, and some more), and some bonuses always apply (like + skills, + stats, the Mosaic chance to not spend charges, and more).

Note: CtC when Struck on a weapon counts always, because the effect is not tied to a weapon swing, the effect will happen even if you stand still and do nothing.

different mechanics, I understand, not 100, will Bramble increase damage from

Poison Nova on merc or not?

Yes, Bramble will increase the damage.

Keep in mind that the base damage of the Poison Novas from Breath of the Dying will be fairly low because it will be unsynergized. The CtC effect will cast it as if a Necromancer had level 20

Poison Nova but 0 points in

Poison Dagger and

Poison Explosion. It's only 400-something over 2 seconds, so 200-something damage per second. Bramble would increase this by up to 50%, but that's still only up to 600-something damage over 2 seconds.

If a Necromancer wielded Breath of the Dying, and had invested in

Poison Dagger and

Poison Explosion, the Poison Novas from Breath of the Dying would do a lot more damage because then it would be synergized by those skills.

atari wrote: 7 months ago

Forget that. I was thinking about chance to cast on attack or strike but botd has chance to cast when you kill an enemy. Not sure how that works.

It works similarly, but there are some quirks.

According to Amazon Basin's article on When You Kill An Enemy :

...when an enemy is killed by the weapon damage, weapon or skill poison damage, or Open Wounds of the equipping player character, mercenary or

Iron Golem, without costing any mana.

ShadowHeart wrote: 7 months ago

Yes, Bramble will increase the damage.

Keep in mind that the base damage of the Poison Novas from Breath of the Dying will be fairly low because it will be unsynergized. The CtC effect will cast it as if a Necromancer had level 20

Poison Nova but 0 points in

Poison Dagger and

Poison Explosion. It's only 400-something over 2 seconds, so 200-something damage per second. Bramble would increase this by up to 50%, but that's still only up to 600-something damage over 2 seconds.

If a Necromancer wielded Breath of the Dying, and had invested in

Poison Dagger and

Poison Explosion, the Poison Novas from Breath of the Dying would do a lot more damage because then it would be synergized by those skills.

thank you,
for some reason I thought about the necro with a

Crossbow and looked at the table
ias 50 15
ias 70 14
ias 95 13
ias 138 12
ias 215 11

ShadowHeart wrote: 7 months ago

atari wrote: 7 months ago

Forget that. I was thinking about chance to cast on attack or strike but botd has chance to cast when you kill an enemy. Not sure how that works.

It works similarly, but there are some quirks.

According to Amazon Basin's article on When You Kill An Enemy :

...when an enemy is killed by the weapon damage, weapon or skill poison damage, or Open Wounds of the equipping player character, mercenary or

Iron Golem, without costing any mana.

From the link: "Chance to Cast When You Kill an Enemy gives a percentage chance to use a skill when an enemy is killed by the weapon damage, weapon or skill poison damage, or Open Wounds of the equipping player character". Does this only apply to poison damage done by weapons with poison damage on it, or will my poisonmancer with his own

Poison Nova trigger the Chance? Would be awesome to have a chain reaction of posion

Nova . Another question: What affects the

Poison Nova dmg on the weapon if i am a skilled out poisonmancer with +skill gear?