Uber Ancients post 3.2

oOKIWIOo wrote: 1 day ago

Did a few quick test runs.

My bottom line is the same as @Schnorki has already mentioned: Without overcapped resistances you get your butt kicked, even with

Life Tap (it seems to me the WW attacks from

Uber Talic have massive added fire damage) But when I got all res to 370+ I never died and did not even have to use a Reju with my Zealer/Smiter (I have ca. 2700 life with BO)

I haven't even tried the colossal ancients yet, but have accumulated a billion statues just playing.

I usually do ubers with a

Fury: Skill druid, how feasible are colossal ancients with that?

Otherwise, considering I don't play Paladin or Sorceress, what are good options? I have a Warlock, Javazon, and Barbarian that are probably ready to give it a shot.

human_being wrote: 6 hours ago

oOKIWIOo wrote: 1 day ago

Did a few quick test runs.

My bottom line is the same as @Schnorki has already mentioned: Without overcapped resistances you get your butt kicked, even with

Life Tap (it seems to me the WW attacks from

Uber Talic have massive added fire damage) But when I got all res to 370+ I never died and did not even have to use a Reju with my Zealer/Smiter (I have ca. 2700 life with BO)

I haven't even tried the colossal ancients yet, but have accumulated a billion statues just playing.

I usually do ubers with a

Fury: Skill druid, how feasible is this with that class?

Otherwise, considering I don't play Paladin or Sorceress, what are good options? I have a Warlock, Javazon, and Barbarian that are probably ready to give it a shot.

I usually do Ubers with Javazon.

Charged Strike takes bosses done very quickly. In any case stack enough resist, and pre-buff using Treasury.

xuehang1985 wrote: 6 hours ago

I usually do Ubers with Javazon.

Charged Strike takes bosses done very quickly. In any case stack enough resist, and pre-buff using Treasury.

I guess Treachery? Also, do you think an Ice Bowazon could handle them as well? Could start with Harmony and bring two dozen

Megademon dudes to the fight

Mosaic assuming non ladder.

Salid wrote: 6 hours ago

xuehang1985 wrote: 6 hours ago

I usually do Ubers with Javazon.

Charged Strike takes bosses done very quickly. In any case stack enough resist, and pre-buff using Treasury.

I guess Treachery? Also, do you think an Ice Bowazon could handle them as well? Could start with Harmony and bring two dozen

Megademon dudes to the fight

i seriously doubt it. did it with self wield Infinity zon before patch, and it wasn't a walk in the park. and icemaiden has like 20x less dps?

also a good geared fire sorc couldn't handle them even before patch.. or it would have been very long tiresome

ganseng wrote: 6 hours ago

Salid wrote: 6 hours ago

xuehang1985 wrote: 6 hours ago

I usually do Ubers with Javazon.

Charged Strike takes bosses done very quickly. In any case stack enough resist, and pre-buff using Treasury.

I guess Treachery? Also, do you think an Ice Bowazon could handle them as well? Could start with Harmony and bring two dozen

Megademon dudes to the fight

i seriously doubt it. did it with self wield Infinity zon before patch, and it wasn't a walk in the park. and icemaiden has like 20x less dps?

Treachery sorry... self-wielding Infinity does not work well. Use

Thunderstroke, Spirit or Phoenix, griffon, thundergod

Belt, wisp and

Raven ring.

xuehang1985 wrote: 6 hours ago

ganseng wrote: 6 hours ago

Salid wrote: 6 hours ago

I guess Treachery? Also, do you think an Ice Bowazon could handle them as well? Could start with Harmony and bring two dozen

Megademon dudes to the fight

i seriously doubt it. did it with self wield Infinity zon before patch, and it wasn't a walk in the park. and icemaiden has like 20x less dps?

Treachery sorry... self-wielding Infinity does not work well. Use

Thunderstroke, Spirit or Phoenix, griffon, thundergod

Belt, wisp and

Raven ring.

hmm how can -50% lightning res be bad?
and maybe you know, have been asking for a while, does

Conviction work on uber ancients?

human_being wrote: 6 hours ago

oOKIWIOo wrote: 1 day ago

Did a few quick test runs.

My bottom line is the same as @Schnorki has already mentioned: Without overcapped resistances you get your butt kicked, even with

Life Tap (it seems to me the WW attacks from

Uber Talic have massive added fire damage) But when I got all res to 370+ I never died and did not even have to use a Reju with my Zealer/Smiter (I have ca. 2700 life with BO)

I haven't even tried the colossal ancients yet, but have accumulated a billion statues just playing.

I usually do ubers with a

Fury: Skill druid, how feasible are colossal ancients with that?

Otherwise, considering I don't play Paladin or Sorceress, what are good options? I have a Warlock, Javazon, and Barbarian that are probably ready to give it a shot.

Concerning the statue count, we are in the same boat. Currently I could do 56 runs

How other classes than a Paladin fare I cannot tell. In my estimation having 360+ allres is absolutely mandatory (fire and lightning should be 375). I also think you have to have some "tankyness" with your char because I don't know how you can keep them effectively away from you. Therefore, I suspect ranged chars will have a hard time.

Furthermore, they already had very erratic behaviors and even sometimes blocked themselves which made it difficult to sort the two out you want to kill first. Now it is even worse because you really have to get your hits landed in order to leech and stay alive.

My advice is to reconstruct your char in the Maxroll Planner, export the file and then try it offline. This is how I tested the performance of my Zealer.

my geared lvl 94 1 pt smiter hammerdin pally died a couple of times. was previously a cake walk.

human_being wrote: 6 hours ago

oOKIWIOo wrote: 1 day ago

I usually do ubers with a

Fury: Skill druid, how feasible are colossal ancients with that?

Before the new patch I did the colossal ancients with my Fury druid. First try was with an ethereal

Windhammer and

Jalal's Mane. The second one was with ethereal Death and Metamorphosis. Both times I had max resistances and draculs grasp. Had no problems at all. The second setup didi get the job done much faster. As merc I used the act 2 with

Holy Freeze and

Kelpie Snare. The zoo I summoned with plus 17 skills so they have max resistances.

Oak Sage I had maxed. They all survived quite long surprisingly, both times until the second ancient was about to go down.

Next week I intend to try the colossal ancients again. But since I play hardcore I am hoping for some further comments. I believe the zoo will probably die much quicker.

ganseng wrote: 5 hours ago

xuehang1985 wrote: 6 hours ago

ganseng wrote: 6 hours ago

i seriously doubt it. did it with self wield Infinity zon before patch, and it wasn't a walk in the park. and icemaiden has like 20x less dps?

Treachery sorry... self-wielding Infinity does not work well. Use

Thunderstroke, Spirit or Phoenix, griffon, thundergod

Belt, wisp and

Raven ring.

hmm how can -50% lightning res be bad?
and maybe you know, have been asking for a while, does

Conviction work on uber ancients?

I don't understand the mechanism very well either. Haven't tried Infinity on ancients, only on ubers. It seems to me that the main problem with Infinity is the attack speed.

Thunderstroke attacks much faster. Moreover it is much easier to stack resist with a shield