What would be the least popular (but correct) balance changes?

Ill go first:

Spirit should be nerfed to +1 all skills

Call To Arms should get

Battle Command OR

Battle Orders but not both.

I hate to say it but the -15% to

Flame Wave for Locks. Its awesome but WAY too op

HI. Please explain your logic though.

I will give some comments. I understand you want to nerf casters, but +1 Spirit is basically an inferior

Lidless Wall. And nerfing CTA will not bring much. There are tons of people that use second account to buff themselves with Max level cries anyway. Think of it as a quality of life thing

Lemzodistber wrote: 10 hours ago

Ill go first:

Spirit should be nerfed to +1 all skills

Call To Arms should get

Battle Command OR

Battle Orders but not both.

Agreed with Spirit. I don’t know how that thing ever got past balancing testing. It’s just absurd for how easy it is to get.

Or even make Spirit only work for weapons! And I’d say rebalance it to roll +1 or +2. With maybe +2 being a 20% chance.

But yeah, Spirit is the most broken single item out there.

- Remove +1

Teleport from Enigma.
- Add a unique ring that gives +1

Teleport (O-Skill) and both else.

Spirit shouldn't be nerfed by the +1 skills, it shld need a higher level rune, and/or we need another viable shield for it.
Having the ability to have Spirit in a weapon and shield to double wield it is also kinda busted. Maybe dual wield Spirit swords, but you can only have a sword or a shield equipped at the same time. This would open up a lot more of

Wizardspike and

Spectral Shard for example.

What's crazy to me is when theory crafting (my fav part of the game) Spirit Shield is often BiS for every class. Barb and Sin aside. That really shouldn't be thing and its such a low level runeword to carry you to lvl 99 as BiS.

Idk, it defo needs a look at, but there's a lot of other things I'm sure needs a look at before Spirit.

As far as Enigma...

Enigma is expensive and you can't use it until lvl 65 anyway, when tbh I'm still using a

Teleport Staff. Enigma is a QoL for end game that just tosses the TP staff so you can actually have a viable weapon swap. I think Enigma is fine.
Having

Teleport on a ring is insanely more broken than Enigma.

As far as CTA getting one or the other... why? J/w.

vued wrote: 8 hours ago

- Remove +1

Teleport from Enigma.
- Add a unique ring that gives +1

Teleport (O-Skill) and both else.

Absolutely! Enigma is so stupidly OP that there is simply no incentive to get anything else for 95% chars out there. Granted, it's not cheap, but 'somehow' people have so many Jahs and Bers lying around, so everyone and their grandmother end up with Enigmas.

Nerfing torch an Anni. Both are must haves because how OP they are.
Skiller GCs are already a must in most builds and they give 1 tree skill. Large charm with +3 skills and all res and attributes. A tad too much. We'd still be farming keys and torches at the same rates with only 1 to skills.

Small charms with 5 al res and 20 life are top notch. Even the worst

Annihilus beats this and gives another skill and extra xp. Well, at least you have to trigger a world event for this, so I kind of get that it needs to be OP.

I'm inclined to say that for anyone who actually wants this game to be/remain stable, healthy and good, no "correct" balance change is ever unpopular. Even if it does end up nerfing one of your own builds.

That includes - first and foremost - the warlock changes coming up (which might still fall short for multiple builds tbh).
It would include an adjustment to Mosaic, not introducing some new, nerfed alternative in ladder but actually changing all of the existing mosaics to something more balanced to bring non-ladder ones back in line as well. (Or leaving Mosaic as is but accounting for it via class/skill changes, same thing).
Basically, proper, balanced nerfs to outliers at the very top end. Plus proper, balanced buffs to outliers at the bottom end.

The ones that would offer far more potential to be unpopular - in my opinion - are those that are also up for debate with regards to whether or not they would be correct and that go beyond a simple question of balance. Nerfing Enigma/removing

Teleport for example has a fair few folks supporting it and countless folks against it. It'd inherently be a massive shift in power dynamics between classes so has clear balance implications that would need to be considered.
But beyond that, more importantly, it completely changes the nature of endgame D2 and slows it down dramatically for any (current) Enigma build. That then isn't just a question of class/build/item balance anymore but a question of overall gameplay and design as it'd completely unravel 20some years of "high speed endgame".

Oh yeah for sure. Mosaic should be nerfed to like 20% chance to not

Consume charges or the 50% made to not stack.

Warlocks should not get both 2 handed weapons in 1 hand and also the ability to use ethereal weapons.

For

Teleport, I think giving it like 10x the mana cost should work.

Blizzard in general should have been way more cautious with oskills and auras on items, but that's been too badly designed for too long. Especially aura items on mercs.

Also in general I think characters are too easily made unconstrained by resources. Even without Insight which at least has the trade off of losing Infinity or something.

Nerf

Teleport. Not Enigma,

Teleport - nerfing Enigma would make Sorceress the only viable character. She already dominates early ladder because of tele.
It should work like

Blade Warp - not through walls, and with some cooldown.

Haha. Yeah, my first thought was Spirit. I think anytime you have one item that is the ONLY choice, that probably could be tweaked. Things that are required, don't mean there is much thought put into your choices.