This is a Lying Character Screen bug?

Hi there!
After leveled to 99 with my

Hydra Sorc I played a little with my first char, Zealer Pally at level 92.
I also gave him a welcome-back gift, his first Grief, replacing the "worn" Unbending Will which cut down many mobs.

I was very keen to see the Grief's damage stats but I was disappointed, it was lower that the old one. However the actual damage of Grief is way better in-game versus Unbending Will.
I tested on P8 on Cow Level, Grief vs Unbending Will and was like 3-4 seconds vs 8-9 seconds until the cow dies. The whole level was 25 minutes with Grief and 38 minutes with Unbending Will.

Is that a Lying Character Screen bug, showing smaller numbers instead of actual ones or are factored other stats like -target defense? In-game damage is way better than Unbending Will.
Here are my character stats: https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/3l7u20y1#3
There are displayed 3200 - 3900

Zeal Damage and 5200 - 6400 with fana activated. In my game screen are much lower numbers.

yes the flat damage from Grief does not show on the lcs....

Haha, this is the original reason it’s called the lying character screen! Way back in 2003 when Grief came out is when ppl first started noticing and calling it this (i think… im not a D2 historian).

Totally a normal question to ask though!

If you're interested in a more in depth answer about why Grief is so good even though it doesn't show on the sheet:



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davme_mcreg wrote: 8 months ago

If you're interested in a more in depth answer about why Grief is so good even though it doesn't show on the sheet:

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skip to about 2 minutes in.

Does the might aura from Last Wish apply to the act 3 merc? Because if it did, that would be pretty awesome.

jazminotis wrote: 6 months ago

Does the might aura from Last Wish apply to the act 3 merc? Because if it did, that would be pretty awesome.

Might aura from Last Wish applies to physical damage only. If you are asking whether it's possible for act3 merc to wield LW and supply the Might, then yes, it's possible, if you make it in

Crystal Sword or

Dimensional Blade. Act3 never reaches enough DEX for

Phase Blade.

So in the end you'd have lvl 17 might aura at the cost of jahmaljahsurjahber in a meme-base instead of lvl 19-22 aura from act2 merc. Profit!

yep good ol Grief for you

Queegon wrote: 6 months ago

of jahmaljahsurjahber in a

gesundheit

Queegon wrote: 6 months ago

jazminotis wrote: 6 months ago

Does the might aura from Last Wish apply to the act 3 merc? Because if it did, that would be pretty awesome.

Might aura from Last Wish applies to physical damage only. If you are asking whether it's possible for act3 merc to wield LW and supply the Might, then yes, it's possible, if you make it in

Crystal Sword or

Dimensional Blade. Act3 never reaches enough DEX for

Phase Blade.

So in the end you'd have lvl 17 might aura at the cost of jahmaljahsurjahber in a meme-base instead of lvl 19-22 aura from act2 merc. Profit!

True. BUT (there is always but), in some very specific cases (I think actually you mentioned Queegon that you use that max lvl Act 3 Lightning Merc on some build IIRC?) you might want to combine yourself being a physical build with, for example, high/boosted Act 3 Lightning Merc with, for example, either double Dream or something along lines of Griffons/4 faceted shield and yet retain some of the physical boost thus 'wasting' LW on

Crystal Sword. On top of that, you can make a 'themed' build with Act 3 Lightning/Fire Merc as well -- Lightning/Physical Spearzon with Act 3 Lightning one is a nice combo but also is a Fire Bear Druid with a Act 3 Fire Merc, just throwing some options out there.

TheDoo wrote: 6 months ago

True. BUT (there is always but), in some very specific cases (I think actually you mentioned Queegon that you use that max lvl Act 3 Lightning Merc on some build IIRC?) you might want to combine yourself being a physical build with, for example, high/boosted Act 3 Lightning Merc with, for example, either double Dream or something along lines of Griffons/4 faceted shield and yet retain some of the physical boost thus 'wasting' LW on

Crystal Sword. On top of that, you can make a 'themed' build with Act 3 Lightning/Fire Merc as well -- Lightning/Physical Spearzon with Act 3 Lightning one is a nice combo but also is a Fire Bear Druid with a Act 3 Fire Merc, just throwing some options out there.

Ew, no. There is no but here. Lightning guy's only redeeming quality is him being marginally better than the cold one. I'm using act3 fire for his

Enchant on a dragondin, which, while being on-theme, is still very irrelevant.

Please don't use Dream in the same sentence as act3 merc. You will give people the wrong idea. That build doesn't work. Never did. It falls off in nightmare in terms of damage.

But but but but... He looks cool!
Yeah, I know, however I didn't use just Dream, I said double Dream -- double whammy! xd
I'm gonna make Act 3 Merc great again, just you watch (need 2 cook some insanely bad build where he can shine)!

P.S. Cold one is actually decent for some safety builds IIRC his

Glacial Spike can do wonders for CC (not sure about high player count tho).

Knappogue wrote: 6 months ago

Queegon wrote: 6 months ago

of jahmaljahsurjahber in a

gesundheit

Thx for the laugh lol

TheDoo wrote: 6 months ago

But but but but... He looks cool!
Yeah, I know, however I didn't use just Dream, I said double Dream -- double whammy! xd
I'm gonna make Act 3 Merc great again, just you watch (need 2 cook some insanely bad build where he can shine)!

P.S. Cold one is actually decent for some safety builds IIRC his

Glacial Spike can do wonders for CC (not sure about high player count tho).

You can stack lvl 44

Holy Fire rather than 30

Holy Shock on a3 merc. Even with Flickering Flame as support for synergy.