upgrading uniques- ripsaws, doomslinger etc- worth it?

Ripsaw is pretty good with its chance to open wounds...so could be a good upgrade...so is

Doomslinger and others like

Chance Guards, gold wrap, but are those a go to for hell as well? or just for NM normal?

any upgraded uniques you guys have used on hell? which worked nice on your NM/normal runs?

I always up my

Magefist gloves.

Goldwrap is worth upgrading, as it increases its potion capacity.

Love the suggestions here

A personal favorite of mine:

I'm thinking its worth wasting a

Pul over

Bloodletter(for upgrade)?

I'd consider upping a 3/4

Bloodletter myself, and dual wield them

I upped a butcher’s pupil and shaeled it and it worked quite nicely before I got my Grief. Then I saw how inferior it was but before that it got me through nicely and the indestructibility is handy for a zealot

can you upgrade a normal socket (unsocketed) ?

rikus wrote: 3 years ago

Ripsaw is pretty good with its chance to open wounds...so could be a good upgrade...so is

Doomslinger and others like

Chance Guards, gold wrap, but are those a go to for hell as well? or just for NM normal?

any upgraded uniques you guys have used on hell? which worked nice on your NM/normal runs?

I think it is no problem to upgrade Normal to Exceptional, if just factor the resource to do so. The 2 Runes and the PGems are nothing when you reach hell. Elite is diffrent story.

The bigger problem i see is (in case of

Ripsaw), that the requirement can increase dramatically (a

Zweihander

Ripsaw needs 125 Str & 94 Dex). I considered to up a

Ripsaw but i didn't want to invest that much stats.

rikus wrote: 3 years ago

can you upgrade a normal socket (unsocketed) ?

You cannot, you can only upgrade Rares and Uniques.

Upgrading is usually not worth it.

Some weapons and perhaps a

Belt to increase potion capacity while keeping requirements in mind.

Defense has very little value in Diablo2 and upgraded items are mostly worth to collectors if they are perfect base/roll defense to start with (and after upgrade).

I absolutely love double up'd Goblin Toes on kicksins and Conc barbs. Literally never use a different pair of shoes.

Cryptography wrote: 3 years ago

Upgrading is usually not worth it.

Some weapons and perhaps a

Belt to increase potion capacity while keeping requirements in mind.

Defense has very little value in Diablo2 and upgraded items are mostly worth to collectors if they are perfect base/roll defense to start with (and after upgrade).

compare it to end game perhaps, but we're talking until.

or you have a comparison in mind where its not beneficial?

Darq wrote: 3 years ago

The bigger problem i see is (in case of

Ripsaw), that the requirement can increase dramatically (a

Zweihander

Ripsaw needs 125 Str & 94 Dex). I considered to up a

Ripsaw but i didn't want to invest that much stats.

Level requirement can change as well. I upgraded a

Goldstrike Arch and its lvl req went up to 70 from 46. Base

Hydra Bow lvl req is 63.

rikus wrote: 3 years ago

Cryptography wrote: 3 years ago

Upgrading is usually not worth it.

Some weapons and perhaps a

Belt to increase potion capacity while keeping requirements in mind.

Defense has very little value in Diablo2 and upgraded items are mostly worth to collectors if they are perfect base/roll defense to start with (and after upgrade).

compare it to end game perhaps, but we're talking until.

or you have a comparison in mind where its not beneficial?

It is not beneficial if you need to spend more stats to equip it. Defense is very close to most useless stat in game. Upgrading only makes sense if it improves your damage (weapons,

Boots for kicksin, shield for smiter), gives potion slots for

Belt or requires no extra investment.

Cryptography wrote: 3 years ago

rikus wrote: 3 years ago

Cryptography wrote: 3 years ago

Upgrading is usually not worth it.

Some weapons and perhaps a

Belt to increase potion capacity while keeping requirements in mind.

Defense has very little value in Diablo2 and upgraded items are mostly worth to collectors if they are perfect base/roll defense to start with (and after upgrade).

compare it to end game perhaps, but we're talking until.

or you have a comparison in mind where its not beneficial?

It is not benefitial if you need to spend more stats to equip it. Defense is very close to most useless stat in game. Upgrading only makes sense if it improves your damage (weapons,

Boots for kicksin, shield for smiter), gives potion slots for

Belt or requires no extra investment.

Ripsaw and

Bloodletter are weapons.
anyway, its your choice not here to change your religion. if its your playstyle or your own preference. you see it in your game. I think its another fun aspect, you can always respec, if it doesn't suit ya.
or not, you can go all the way your way.

rikus wrote: 3 years ago

Cryptography wrote: 3 years ago

rikus wrote: 3 years ago

Cryptography wrote: 3 years ago

Upgrading is usually not worth it.

Some weapons and perhaps a

Belt to increase potion capacity while keeping requirements in mind.

Defense has very little value in Diablo2 and upgraded items are mostly worth to collectors if they are perfect base/roll defense to start with (and after upgrade).

compare it to end game perhaps, but we're talking until.

or you have a comparison in mind where its not beneficial?

It is not benefitial if you need to spend more stats to equip it. Defense is very close to most useless stat in game. Upgrading only makes sense if it improves your damage (weapons,

Boots for kicksin, shield for smiter), gives potion slots for

Belt or requires no extra investment.

Ripsaw and

Bloodletter are weapons.
anyway, its your choice not here to change your religion. if its your playstyle or your own preference. you see it in your game. I think its another fun aspect, you can always respec, if it doesn't suit ya.
or not, you can go all the way your way.

You comment like you literally are here to change religion, though.

Upgrading most(!) items, fun or not, is not reasonable unless seeking for the perfect roll (which requires perfect base to begin with). If you like to do it then go for it but your topic context invoke discussion and I provided.

upgrading uniques- ripsaws,

Doomslinger etc- worth it?

Just wanted to mention because I don't think a lot of people know about this but we added values for ethereal/upped versions of all uniques and sets in the game on the website here.

So you can go to

Goblin Toe for example and see what the def value would be if you upped to the Elite version of its base item, and what the def value would be if it was upped like that and also ethereal!

Thanks to the contributors for that data.

Teebling wrote: 3 years ago

Just wanted to mention because I don't think a lot of people know about this but we added values for ethereal/upped versions of all uniques and sets in the game on the website here.

So you can go to

Goblin Toe for example and see what the def value would be if you upped to the Elite version of its base item, and what the def value would be if it was upped like that and also ethereal!

Thanks to the contributors for that data.

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That is upgraded perfect defense though as base item defense gets picked from range of defense of new base item - it is not always maximum+1 even if item has enhanced defense (like it does when item is first dropped).

So, this data really shows what defense it could be, not would be.