Javazon build

rango_jr wrote: 2 years ago

Mine just got through Hell Act I. I don't have Griffons or Infinity. Currently running Peace, Upped non-

Eth titans, Spirit,

Razortail, Valk Wing, Aldurs

Boots, +3 gloves (no IAS yet),

Raven Frost,

Dwarf Star, and Maras.

Do you think it would be worth trying to trade

Ber for a Griffons (would that get me enough to at least break the immunity) or should i hold out and try to get either Enigma to run around them or keep looking and go for Infinity?

rango_jr wrote: 2 years ago

Mana i'm fine with at the moment, since i'm still running Insight on my merc, so that isn't an issue.

IAS could be better. I shopped

Anya for a while to pick up some +3 gloves, finally got some +3 skills/+19 dex, which are at least useful. I'm sure i'll go back and try and find some 3/20s

I'm leaning towards trying for Enigma or Infinity. Both eventually. my main mf character is a sorc, so griffons or inifinity can be used with her, and Enigma can be useful on basically anyone but her (though i guess i could use it there too and save a point).

Right now my biggest issue is res. Peace isn't helping, and Enigma wouldn't either. Thinking of either sticking an

Um in my valk wing or using my

Ber for COH, which I feel could benefit a number of builds too.

rango_jr wrote: 2 years ago

Mana i'm fine with at the moment, since i'm still running Insight on my merc, so that isn't an issue.

IAS could be better. I shopped

Anya for a while to pick up some +3 gloves, finally got some +3 skills/+19 dex, which are at least useful. I'm sure i'll go back and try and find some 3/20s

I'm leaning towards trying for Enigma or Infinity. Both eventually. my main mf character is a sorc, so griffons or inifinity can be used with her, and Enigma can be useful on basically anyone but her (though i guess i could use it there too and save a point).

Right now my biggest issue is res. Peace isn't helping, and Enigma wouldn't either. Thinking of either sticking an

Um in my valk wing or using my

Ber for COH, which I feel could benefit a number of builds too.

rango_jr wrote: 2 years ago

Mine just got through Hell Act I. I don't have Griffons or Infinity. Currently running Peace, Upped non-

Eth titans, Spirit,

Razortail, Valk Wing, Aldurs

Boots, +3 gloves (no IAS yet),

Raven Frost,

Dwarf Star, and Maras.

Do you think it would be worth trying to trade

Ber for a Griffons (would that get me enough to at least break the immunity) or should i hold out and try to get either Enigma to run around them or keep looking and go for Infinity?

Obi184 wrote: 2 years ago

I’m using Smoke on my javazon and it’s a huge bonus, though of course, no +to skills. Still murdering everything though with just a lower res

Wand.

Cryptography wrote: 2 years ago

kg_tho wrote: 2 years ago

Is Fortitude considered a good Armor for the Javazon because of %ED? Or does that not really apply to the lightning damage directly. I just started a Javazon and appreciate all the info in this thread!

Only physical damage, hence useless for lf/cs zon.

rango_jr wrote: 2 years ago

Mine just got through Hell Act I. I don't have Griffons or Infinity. Currently running Peace, Upped non-

Eth titans, Spirit,

Razortail, Valk Wing, Aldurs

Boots, +3 gloves (no IAS yet),

Raven Frost,

Dwarf Star, and Maras.

Do you think it would be worth trying to trade

Ber for a Griffons (would that get me enough to at least break the immunity) or should i hold out and try to get either Enigma to run around them or keep looking and go for Infinity?

MarcWizard wrote: 2 years ago

Infinity before Griffon’s. Infinity will break immunities and change your world. Griffons will not.

Edit: did not see that Enigma was also in the cards. Enigma, then Infinity, then griffon’s then.

Cryptography wrote: 2 years ago

MarcWizard wrote: 2 years ago

I must say I am quite disappointed that even the video couldn't turn you around. After all, you had to see to believe, right?

My

Boots are gore riders. I don't see a reason to use

Silkweave since, as you have observed, I am already not reliant on mana potions.

Belt is Arach, to hit 48 FCR breakpoint. I do have T-gods and

Razortail as back up, but at this time I do not feel the need to reduce my QoL for additional damage. The clip explains this quite adequately.

RE: Damage boost with griffons - Diablo already goes down in 2 hits, cows already melt. I don't see a huge reason to change the source of 74% MF. Maybe if they introduce Greater Rifts or something. Then it'd be time to dig deep and chug mana pots when necessary. When FARMING, however, I am all about that QoL. I dont have to visit a vendor and repair, I dont have to manage potions in my

Belt. I kill,

Teleport, kill, repeat.

RE: Upgrading

Eth titans as a last upgrade - its a

Pul rune. Your placing it after

Jah

Ber,

Ber

Ber, and a bunch of other, much more expensive upgrades looks like you're dying on this hill, and I'm not sure why. Its a

Pul rune. Use your editor, look at the difference in average damage between upped and non-upped. And multiply that by your attack speed.

RE: losing the ability to repair? Repair? What's that? Javazons don't need to repair. They fire until one

Eth titan runs low, swap to the other one from the cube, repeat. I have forgotten what repair is. You want this "ability" to repair, go ahead. Use a lower damage weapon that you can enjoy repairing. I honestly cannot understand you at this point. Do you understand, I have not HAD to repair since I started farming my Enigma through Infinity?

Jah

Ber

Ber

Ber worth of farming, and I never repaired once. Is that a disability?

RE: Mana leech being helpful in some cases: No, Mana leech is helpful all the time. Because my mana doesn't run down, I don't have to manage potions. As in, I never have to pick pots off the floor or go to a vendor to top up. I don't have to THINK about this resource, it is invisible to me. I can throw LF indefinitely. This means uninterrupted farming, i only care about looting gear and runes. I don't have to check my

Belt, I dont have to worry about no mana potions dropping, I dont have to TP if I run out. This translates to faster runs.

Rest of Gear:

Boots are gore riders as discussed. Gear is still MF mode: my SC are 7 MF with some perks where available, such as cold dmg etc. GCs are skillers as usual. I'm still carrying my cube and leaving space for loot both, again for QoL. When farming on switch, you cant loot directly into cube.

Conclusion: Upped

Eth titans are one of the first, NOT the last, upgrades I would heartily recommend to any growing Javazon, they are what we call low hanging fruit. You will easily procure the equivalent value of 2 upped

Eth titans (180 ed, not 200 ed which is truly the gg) along the journey to the first Enigma - heck, the first

Jah. The subsequent substantial increase in weapon damage results in a competent mana leech which will eliminate one of the maintenance aspects of potions, while having a pair eliminates the other maintenance aspect of repair. This time will go to killing more things. The numbers: 1

Eth titan at 180 ed for approx

Ist, upping for

Pul, puts the cost of 2x 180 ED upped E titans at just above 2

Ist, while

Jah's value is at 18-19

Ist, and

Ber 26

Ist. To put this upgrade off until the equivalent upgrade of literally 100's

Ist of value does not make any sense.

I don't have a full day to type out a reply but for whatever reason, following your footsteps did not replicate your results. I would run out of mana, not as easily but still would. I definitely could not finish a single run without mana potions. I will make an exact replica of ypur build later and see if it is any different but unlikely.

MarcWizard wrote: 2 years ago

I was curious as to how the Fortitude would actually impact damage, so i took screenshots of my LF damage with Enigma vs Fortitude. (The one with higher weapon damage is fort, obv)E2291CFC-CBC3-47AB-A82E-ABBF445B02F3.jpeg
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Apparently, the damage boost from Fortitude on upped

Eth titans is no bloody joke. We lose about 85 lightning damage average by dropping the skills2 from Enigma/coh, but the weapon damage jumps from 1041 to 1632, a whopping 591 point jump in physical damage. Thats a damage increase of 506 in weapon damage, and your life and mana leech will be incredible! I still love me some

Teleport though, so I wont be doing this anytime soon.

MrxWNx wrote: 2 years ago

MarcWizard wrote: 2 years ago

I was curious as to how the Fortitude would actually impact damage, so i took screenshots of my LF damage with Enigma vs Fortitude. (The one with higher weapon damage is fort, obv)E2291CFC-CBC3-47AB-A82E-ABBF445B02F3.jpeg
0A063816-93B9-4526-892E-51FE3E8F6032.jpeg

Apparently, the damage boost from Fortitude on upped

Eth titans is no bloody joke. We lose about 85 lightning damage average by dropping the skills2 from Enigma/coh, but the weapon damage jumps from 1041 to 1632, a whopping 591 point jump in physical damage. Thats a damage increase of 506 in weapon damage, and your life and mana leech will be incredible! I still love me some

Teleport though, so I wont be doing this anytime soon.

I was thinking of making a fort for my javazon purely for that ED in physical damage. Thanks for sharing!

rango_jr wrote: 2 years ago

MarcWizard wrote: 2 years ago

Infinity before Griffon’s. Infinity will break immunities and change your world. Griffons will not.

Edit: did not see that Enigma was also in the cards. Enigma, then Infinity, then griffon’s then.

Dropped enough that i could do some trading yesterday. Don't have my

Ber anymore, so I only have half an Infinity (the half that everyone has), but I do have Enigma, and even without using the

Teleport much, the FRW and Life After Kill are amazing.

MarcWizard wrote: 2 years ago

MrxWNx wrote: 2 years ago

MarcWizard wrote: 2 years ago

I was curious as to how the Fortitude would actually impact damage, so i took screenshots of my LF damage with Enigma vs Fortitude. (The one with higher weapon damage is fort, obv)E2291CFC-CBC3-47AB-A82E-ABBF445B02F3.jpeg
0A063816-93B9-4526-892E-51FE3E8F6032.jpeg

Apparently, the damage boost from Fortitude on upped

Eth titans is no bloody joke. We lose about 85 lightning damage average by dropping the skills2 from Enigma/coh, but the weapon damage jumps from 1041 to 1632, a whopping 591 point jump in physical damage. Thats a damage increase of 506 in weapon damage, and your life and mana leech will be incredible! I still love me some

Teleport though, so I wont be doing this anytime soon.

I was thinking of making a fort for my javazon purely for that ED in physical damage. Thanks for sharing!

And my boost is based off pretty crappy UET's (upped

Eth titans). I mentioned earlier in this thread I was on 182 or 179, but I'm blind/amnesiac apparently, they're only 171/169. If you have good UETs at above 190 ED, your gain from fort will be even more crazy. Slap on some additional life leech and you can probably solo Uber Meph, if you can also fix our horrible res.

MrxWNx wrote: 2 years ago

MarcWizard wrote: 2 years ago

MrxWNx wrote: 2 years ago

MarcWizard wrote: 2 years ago

I was curious as to how the Fortitude would actually impact damage, so i took screenshots of my LF damage with Enigma vs Fortitude. (The one with higher weapon damage is fort, obv)E2291CFC-CBC3-47AB-A82E-ABBF445B02F3.jpeg
0A063816-93B9-4526-892E-51FE3E8F6032.jpeg

Apparently, the damage boost from Fortitude on upped

Eth titans is no bloody joke. We lose about 85 lightning damage average by dropping the skills2 from Enigma/coh, but the weapon damage jumps from 1041 to 1632, a whopping 591 point jump in physical damage. Thats a damage increase of 506 in weapon damage, and your life and mana leech will be incredible! I still love me some

Teleport though, so I wont be doing this anytime soon.

I was thinking of making a fort for my javazon purely for that ED in physical damage. Thanks for sharing!

And my boost is based off pretty crappy UET's (upped

Eth titans). I mentioned earlier in this thread I was on 182 or 179, but I'm blind/amnesiac apparently, they're only 171/169. If you have good UETs at above 190 ED, your gain from fort will be even more crazy. Slap on some additional life leech and you can probably solo Uber Meph, if you can also fix our horrible res.

Do you know if the dispersing lightning

Bolts from

Lightning Fury also do physical damage? Or are they just purely lightning damage?

MarcWizard wrote: 2 years ago

MrxWNx wrote: 2 years ago

MarcWizard wrote: 2 years ago

MrxWNx wrote: 2 years ago

MarcWizard wrote: 2 years ago

I was curious as to how the Fortitude would actually impact damage, so i took screenshots of my LF damage with Enigma vs Fortitude. (The one with higher weapon damage is fort, obv)E2291CFC-CBC3-47AB-A82E-ABBF445B02F3.jpeg
0A063816-93B9-4526-892E-51FE3E8F6032.jpeg

Apparently, the damage boost from Fortitude on upped

Eth titans is no bloody joke. We lose about 85 lightning damage average by dropping the skills2 from Enigma/coh, but the weapon damage jumps from 1041 to 1632, a whopping 591 point jump in physical damage. Thats a damage increase of 506 in weapon damage, and your life and mana leech will be incredible! I still love me some

Teleport though, so I wont be doing this anytime soon.

I was thinking of making a fort for my javazon purely for that ED in physical damage. Thanks for sharing!

And my boost is based off pretty crappy UET's (upped

Eth titans). I mentioned earlier in this thread I was on 182 or 179, but I'm blind/amnesiac apparently, they're only 171/169. If you have good UETs at above 190 ED, your gain from fort will be even more crazy. Slap on some additional life leech and you can probably solo Uber Meph, if you can also fix our horrible res.

Do you know if the dispersing lightning

Bolts from

Lightning Fury also do physical damage? Or are they just purely lightning damage?

They do both, which is why you will observe leeching more from a group than from an individual.