Summon Necro Ubers

Schnorki wrote: 2 years ago

Prevent monster heal does not work for a mercenary, it has to be on the player.
Prevent monster heal also generally does not work against ubers, no matter who applies it.

Thanks for the clarification.

Necrarch wrote: 2 years ago

If I understand correctly, Malice in a 3os polearm should work as well, right (and no drain life for hirelings) ?

Correct.

Though as much as you want to stop their regen, you also want your merc to still do some actual damage and whatnot so while Malice works in a pinch, there are far better options out there.

I suppose you can swap merc weapon from cube, as you'd do a

Fade proc from Treachery - even if sounds annoying to do.

Still a 3os

Eth

Thresher is cheap so may be an option

While running Ubers with my summon Necro, I always gear merc with GFace, Duress and Obedience. They all cheap and effective I believe and mostly due to telestomping, merc doesn't need LL.

louner wrote: 2 years ago

Ok I'm going for round two and I'll try a few different things. I will let you know my thoughts on summon necro later.

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You gear looks like Chuck Norris is doing Ubers.

ceving wrote: 2 years ago

louner wrote: 2 years ago

Ok I'm going for round two and I'll try a few different things. I will let you know my thoughts on summon necro later.

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You gear looks like Chuck Norris is doing Ubers.

Ye, thats my

Key mule.

Sorry to

Revive this thread a bit. But, I just had time to read through everything in full. Lots of great information. The one thing I don't understand right now is why use Cows for tele stomp? Do cows have some ability or innate quality about them that make them advantageous? OR are we using cows mostly out of convenience?
Thank you

Bumper007 wrote: 2 years ago

Sorry to

Revive this thread a bit. But, I just had time to read through everything in full. Lots of great information. The one thing I don't understand right now is why use Cows for tele stomp? Do cows have some ability or innate quality about them that make them advantageous? OR are we using cows mostly out of convenience?
Thank you

Urdars are better because of Crushing Blow, but cows are just very easy to access (and you can reliably get them), there are plenty of them and they are strong enough to kill Ubers and mini ubers, which makes them second best I think

i just checked cow's stats and they are... weak??

i mean, they have 10k hp, which is pretty good and they won't die for sure but their damage sucks: ~150 damage per attack; for example, my skeletons have around 950~ base damage

n8mare wrote: 2 years ago

i just checked cow's stats and they are... weak??

i mean, they have 10k hp, which is pretty good and they won't die for sure but their damage sucks: ~150 damage per attack; for example, my skeletons have around 950~ base damage

Skeleton Mastery skill has +monster life and +monster damage which multiplies that by >400%, merc might aura gives >200% ed and you cast

Amplify Damage on Ubers on top of that, then

Terror on minios. This is more than enough.

I sometimes only had issues with

Über Baal, but in those cases I just revived Urdars. I also noticed that when you manage to get

Über Baal close to a wall or a corner he teleports less (he seems to get kind of stuck) and its easier to fend off his minions with

Terror.

louner wrote: 2 years ago

n8mare wrote: 2 years ago

i just checked cow's stats and they are... weak??

i mean, they have 10k hp, which is pretty good and they won't die for sure but their damage sucks: ~150 damage per attack; for example, my skeletons have around 950~ base damage

Skeleton Mastery skill has +monster life and +monster damage which multiplies that by >400%, merc might aura gives >200% ed and you cast

Amplify Damage on Ubers on top of that, then

Terror on minios. This is more than enough.

I sometimes only had issues with

Über Baal, but in those cases I just revived Urdars. I also noticed that when you manage to get

Über Baal close to a wall or a corner he teleports less (he seems to get kind of stuck) and its easier to fend off his minions with

Terror.

completely forgot about a passive skill, so yeah, its about ~150*5=~750 damage, which is still less than

Skeleton's damage but is decent
didn't mention merc aura, curse, also have a Beast

Iron Golem which is really good, like almost doubles the damage thanks to attack speed bonus (btw i forgot that my merc got fanatism bonus too, he's like a monster now) because i was speaking about base White damage

anyway, urdars are just without a rival BIS revivals thanks to

Stun + crushing blow which deals much more damage to bosses than a 50~ base damage difference between cow's damage

but in reality i just don't bother getting any revivals even tho i got my first Enigma recently (i have a feeling to write a little topic about but i don't know when lol...)

n8mare wrote: 2 years ago

anyway, urdars are just without a rival BIS revivals thanks to

Stun + crushing blow which deals much more damage to bosses than a 50~ base damage difference between cow's damage

Yes they are better, cows are just "good enough" and you can get them consistently.

I mostly used cows cause my connection is not truly stable and it is sometimes really annoying to find and

Revive Urdars. But, yeah, they are far more useful. But I didn't try Übers without revives. Maybe I can since my merc recently got his Infinity.

n8mare wrote: 2 years ago

louner wrote: 2 years ago

n8mare wrote: 2 years ago

i just checked cow's stats and they are... weak??

i mean, they have 10k hp, which is pretty good and they won't die for sure but their damage sucks: ~150 damage per attack; for example, my skeletons have around 950~ base damage

Skeleton Mastery skill has +monster life and +monster damage which multiplies that by >400%, merc might aura gives >200% ed and you cast

Amplify Damage on Ubers on top of that, then

Terror on minios. This is more than enough.

I sometimes only had issues with

Über Baal, but in those cases I just revived Urdars. I also noticed that when you manage to get

Über Baal close to a wall or a corner he teleports less (he seems to get kind of stuck) and its easier to fend off his minions with

Terror.

completely forgot about a passive skill, so yeah, its about ~150*5=~750 damage, which is still less than

Skeleton's damage but is decent
didn't mention merc aura, curse, also have a Beast

Iron Golem which is really good, like almost doubles the damage thanks to attack speed bonus (btw i forgot that my merc got fanatism bonus too, he's like a monster now) because i was speaking about base White damage

anyway, urdars are just without a rival BIS revivals thanks to

Stun + crushing blow which deals much more damage to bosses than a 50~ base damage difference between cow's damage

but in reality i just don't bother getting any revivals even tho i got my first Enigma recently (i have a feeling to write a little topic about but i don't know when lol...)

I'm also planning to make an

Iron Golem with Beast but not sure how to manage mana. What is your set up for this?

basicnecromancy wrote: 2 years ago

I'm also planning to make an

Iron Golem with Beast but not sure how to manage mana. What is your set up for this?

Why do you want Beast

Iron Golem instead of just holding Beast and using Infinity

Iron Golem? What are you going to use on your necro in the weapon slot?

louner wrote: 2 years ago

basicnecromancy wrote: 2 years ago

I'm also planning to make an

Iron Golem with Beast but not sure how to manage mana. What is your set up for this?

Why do you want Beast

Iron Golem instead of just holding Beast and using Infinity

Iron Golem? What are you going to use on your necro in the weapon slot?

If I carry it myself it decrease the number of skellies. I use AoKL and merc has Infinity. I guess the best combination is Infinity merc, Beast IG but mana could be issue.

By the way, is there anyone here, manage to get 4 or 5 to SS from any necro shield? This is, of course, a little bit over it but maximizing is such thing after all.

I'm trying to reroll some rare shrunken head with a little trick but so far no accomplish.

basicnecromancy wrote: 2 years ago

louner wrote: 2 years ago

basicnecromancy wrote: 2 years ago

I'm also planning to make an

Iron Golem with Beast but not sure how to manage mana. What is your set up for this?

Why do you want Beast

Iron Golem instead of just holding Beast and using Infinity

Iron Golem? What are you going to use on your necro in the weapon slot?

If I carry it myself it decrease the number of skellies. I use AoKL and merc has Infinity. I guess the best combination is Infinity merc, Beast IG but mana could be issue.

here's my current build: https://d2.maxroll.gg/d2planner/yz0106g4

i'm using 1 line of healing potions, 2 lines of mana and 1 line of full rejuvs. don't struggle with mana since i have maek from homu (CE often even restore mana instead of using it),

Teleport doesn't take much mana (max 2 potions in longest run like meph or andy)

i have so many thing to updrage tho, my impossible gg build is: https://d2.maxroll.gg/d2planner/t00106ti

n8mare wrote: 2 years ago

here's my current build: https://d2.maxroll.gg/d2planner/yz0106g4

i'm using 1 line of healing potions, 2 lines of mana and 1 line of full rejuvs. don't struggle with mana since i have maek from homu (CE often even restore mana instead of using it),

Teleport doesn't take much mana (max 2 potions in longest run like meph or andy)

i have so many thing to updrage tho, my impossible gg build is: https://d2.maxroll.gg/d2planner/t00106ti

Shit, I just looked at your Dream build but are those

Wand and head even possible to exist?

basicnecromancy wrote: 2 years ago

n8mare wrote: 2 years ago

here's my current build: https://d2.maxroll.gg/d2planner/yz0106g4

i'm using 1 line of healing potions, 2 lines of mana and 1 line of full rejuvs. don't struggle with mana since i have maek from homu (CE often even restore mana instead of using it),

Teleport doesn't take much mana (max 2 potions in longest run like meph or andy)

i have so many thing to updrage tho, my impossible gg build is: https://d2.maxroll.gg/d2planner/t00106ti

Shit, I just looked at your Dream build but are those

Wand and head even possible to exist?

well, i could create these in planner so i assume that it is possible xd like it doesn't allow you to create amulet with 4 affixes or smth