Paladin Shield Auto-Mods

Hello all,

It seems the only desired auto-mods for paladin shields are the all resistance ones.

are there any cases in which the enhanced damage auto mods would be considered useful, or perhaps even super valuable?

I've seen high ED on

Eth Vortex Shields sell for multiple

Jah and

Ber
I am assuming it was for a smiter vs smiter pvp duel.
As for the rest, I can't say. Hope that helps.

Simply put, if you need the res, then yeah, that'll win. If you don't bother with physical attacks (hammerdins and the like), res also wins.
If you get the res elsewhere but do actually use physical attacks, then ED/AR will win.

For an uber smiter, you're typically going to prefer res, even more so if you don't want to invest into

Conviction or

Salvation, meaning you actually need to hit 300 (or 305 with typical gear) to

Cap against

Mephisto.

But for other physical builds, say an allrounder zealot or even some constellations of uber smiter gearing, you are set on res and want that extra ed/ar.

Most people don't think of the enhanced damage being viable but that's only cause they're smiters. Yes a Shields ed won't effect

Smite but

Zeal,

Charge,

Vengeance all do.

Cinomed541 wrote: 2 years ago

Most people don't think of the enhanced damage being viable but that's only cause they're smiters. Yes a Shields ed won't effect

Smite but

Zeal,

Charge,

Vengeance all do.

Actually, off-weapon ED works just fine with

Smite. Even though the LCS doesn't show it.

Schnorki wrote: 2 years ago

Cinomed541 wrote: 2 years ago

Most people don't think of the enhanced damage being viable but that's only cause they're smiters. Yes a Shields ed won't effect

Smite but

Zeal,

Charge,

Vengeance all do.

Actually, off-weapon ED works just fine with

Smite. Even though the LCS doesn't show it.

Really ? Cause my

Eth Exile has 55%ed

Akaran Rondache does same damage as a plain

Akaran Rondache. And my upped HoZ still does more than either.

Cinomed541 wrote: 2 years ago

Schnorki wrote: 2 years ago

Cinomed541 wrote: 2 years ago

Most people don't think of the enhanced damage being viable but that's only cause they're smiters. Yes a Shields ed won't effect

Smite but

Zeal,

Charge,

Vengeance all do.

Actually, off-weapon ED works just fine with

Smite. Even though the LCS doesn't show it.

Really ? Cause my

Eth Exile has 55%ed

Akaran Rondache does same damage as a plain

Akaran Rondache. And my upped HoZ still does more than either.

It does do more damage. However, it..
a) does not affect the base

Smite damage of the shield (so the shield itself shows the same dmg, unlike a weapon with ed would) but works the same as any other off-weapon ED (e.g. Fortitude)
and b) does not show that improved damage on the (lying) character screen (aka LCS)

The same is true for Grief's flat +damage for example which is fully added to your base

Smite damage but doesn't show up on your character screen.

Smite is a bit annoying to really work out in that regard because some things work, others work but don't show on your stats screen so they seem like they don't work even though they do and some others don't work at all.

See https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=3532193 for example to get a better idea of all of those annoyingly confusing differences.

I'm gonna be so happy in an hour when I get home to test this. I thought I made a stupid trade getting this Exile and not seeing any buff. I've had it since around Thanksgiving, bought my friend a couple beers for it and it's kinda just sat in storage ever since. Now if that's the case what gloves should I use instead of dracs ? Lol, threw my whole idea of Shields upside down.

Well, you may not be able to really see a difference, especially with an

Akaran Rondache.

The more ED you already have (fort, auras, ...), the less of a real difference the comparatively minor ed on your shield really makes. If you combine that with a shield that has a variable dmg range (such as your

Akaran Rondache), you may have a hard time really seeing a difference, even though it is there.

There's other pieces that make it fairly obvious though, such as adding a Grief for the flat dmg bonus from it (night and day) and adding a Fortitude when your only other ed so far was your

Fanaticism for example. You can very easily immediately tell the difference in those cases.

Something like a

Zakarum Shield makes it easier to tell as well, thanks to the extremely stable damage it provides.

As for the gloves, once you get Exile to cover

Life Tap needs,

Steelrend remain my personal favorite for a smiter. Before Exile, it obviously remains drac's.

Cool, I have all of those but use CoH since the Exile doesn't have res, just to be safe for

Mephisto even with TGods. Was just gonna smash Diablo a couple times and see what my TTK is.