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Would a +30 to teleport gem change the gear you wear?

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I like Enigma... in fact, i have about 8 of them... i just make them to make them at this point. Every char uses an Enigma. So many builds don't require a single point to strength due to Enigma, and you get
Teleport
, MF and so on in the bargain. I don't even like mercs, but seeing as they give us auras,,, just to position your merc it's almost default.

However, i do love the old way where unique/rare items had a purpose. I enjoyed making characters that look cool (i mean, why are all runewords gray?) and armor is the biggest part of that.

So many people talk about adjusting
Tyrael's Might
to compete with Enigma. what items would you use if you could socket any item with a 1 mana
Teleport
.. or even a "Fastest Cast Rate"
Teleport
?
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I like Enigma... in fact, i have about 8 of them... i just make them to make them at this point. Every char uses an Enigma. So many builds don't require a single point to strength due to Enigma, and you get
Teleport
, MF and so on in the bargain. I don't even like mercs, but seeing as they give us auras,,, just to position your merc it's almost default.

However, i do love the old way where unique/rare items had a purpose. I enjoyed making characters that look cool (i mean, why are all runewords gray?) and armor is the biggest part of that.

So many people talk about adjusting
Tyrael's Might
to compete with Enigma. what items would you use if you could socket any item with a 1 mana
Teleport
.. or even a "Fastest Cast Rate"
Teleport
?
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leox 455

Resurrected Paladin Asia PC
sounds like you want to use unique.

it actually not make much difference. except kill position of Enigma.

And
Tyrael's Might
have position, I was searching it for special use but yes there are many armor can replace it.

Please be aware, all my trade is in non ladder d2r. Not warlock.
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Even with out
Teleport
, Enigma is still better than
Tyrael's Might
.

I'm not playing D2 as much as before. I'm too lazy to edit all my trade prices. Offer me something reasonable and I'll probably accept.
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OP
Knappogue wrote: 11 hours ago
Even with out
Teleport
, Enigma is still better than
Tyrael's Might
.
yes, i know. Tyraels might should require no level.

but i am talking about other itemss

i would, for example, wear arkaines valor or duriels shell a lot more
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StoBeast wrote: 11 hours ago
Knappogue wrote: 11 hours ago
Even with out
Teleport
, Enigma is still better than
Tyrael's Might
.
yes, i know. Tyraels might should require no level.

but i am talking about other itemss

i would, for example, wear arkaines valor or duriels shell a lot more
I gotcha. TBH, they should just give every class access to
Teleport
as a skill. But that's just my opinion.

I'm not playing D2 as much as before. I'm too lazy to edit all my trade prices. Offer me something reasonable and I'll probably accept.
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OP
Knappogue wrote: 11 hours ago
StoBeast wrote: 11 hours ago
Knappogue wrote: 11 hours ago
Even with out
Teleport
, Enigma is still better than
Tyrael's Might
.
yes, i know. Tyraels might should require no level.

but i am talking about other itemss

i would, for example, wear arkaines valor or duriels shell a lot more
I gotcha. TBH, they should just give every class access to
Teleport
as a skill. But that's just my opinion.
I think it would be far harder to adjust the skill tree.. unless they just gave it for free... that's why they reuse so many things dclone, uber ancients,
Uber Tristram
.... even anni is just memphistos soul Stone. It super easy to add item modifications, hell, you can create them yourself in hero editor. The way i see it, they keep adjusting the game with runewords, torc, anni, uber jewel, sunders , so on it would be in perfect form to adjust this with a socket... or even a scroll like the resists or
Book of Skill
.

personally, i would just like to see different builds. I'd like for you to be able to wear cool rare items. I have about 8
Duriel's Shell
and 4 arkaines valor because they are just too cool to throw away. I've given enigmas away... they are just so dull... especially in MP/AP...
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leox 455

Resurrected Paladin Asia PC
StoBeast wrote: 11 hours ago
Knappogue wrote: 11 hours ago
StoBeast wrote: 11 hours ago


yes, i know. Tyraels might should require no level.

but i am talking about other itemss

i would, for example, wear arkaines valor or duriels shell a lot more
I gotcha. TBH, they should just give every class access to
Teleport
as a skill. But that's just my opinion.
I think it would be far harder to adjust the skill tree.. unless they just gave it for free... that's why they reuse so many things dclone, uber ancients,
Uber Tristram
.... even anni is just memphistos soul Stone. It super easy to add item modifications, hell, you can create them yourself in hero editor. The way i see it, they keep adjusting the game with runewords, torc, anni, uber jewel, sunders , so on it would be in perfect form to adjust this with a socket... or even a scroll like the resists or
Book of Skill
.

personally, i would just like to see different builds. I'd like for you to be able to wear cool rare items. I have about 8
Duriel's Shell
and 4 arkaines valor because they are just too cool to throw away. I've given enigmas away... they are just so dull... especially in MP/AP...
some collector will try to collect perfect/near-perfect ark or
Duriel

Please be aware, all my trade is in non ladder d2r. Not warlock.
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kerph 83

RotW Americas PC
My very hot take is that it's probably ok to have an oskill
Teleport
item, it's just that Enigma is best in slot for so many builds even ignoring the
Teleport


I would love to see it at least lose the +skills and strength per level. With
Teleport
and magic find it'll still fit really well into being the bis item for farming. And better options for other classes, at least give amazon something and give necro/druid
Death Mark
for their summons!!!

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Honestly just put
Teleport
on
Hellfire Torch
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bbb0 41

Resurrected Sorceress Europe PC
I loved the Diablo 1 magic mechanic when you could find books to learn a spell and scrolls to just use them. It was so fun to learn spells with my warrior :D

I don't have RotW expansion yet.
When I look for rune, you can offer
Perfect Gems
as well.
I live in Europe/Budapest timezone.
For my free stuff I appreciate if you give me
Perfect Gems
, but it is optional.
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StoBeast wrote: 11 hours ago
Would a +30 to
Teleport
gem change the gear you wear?
Lemzodistber wrote: 9 hours ago
Honestly just put
Teleport
on
Hellfire Torch
Idea (shamelessly stolen from Median XL):
What if there was a gem or a charm (a new one -
Hellfire Torch
is too common) which granted +1 to a random character skill as an oskill? Such an item could substitute any gear item, relaxing this slot so it's not permanently occupied by an item with a mandatory oskill, like Enigma with
Teleport
.
To make it balanced, characters should be limited to one such "relic" at a time (like most unique charms), and also the existing oskills should likely be removed (and CtCs and charged skills as well), so each character is limited to one other class' skill, not mix and match them to make an ultimate build (
Teleport
from Enigma,
Battle Orders
from Call To Arms,
Fade
from Treachery,
Find Item
from the new item, ...).
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kerph wrote: 10 hours ago
My very hot take is that it's probably ok to have an oskill
Teleport
item, it's just that Enigma is best in slot for so many builds even ignoring the
Teleport


I would love to see it at least lose the +skills and strength per level. With
Teleport
and magic find it'll still fit really well into being the bis item for farming. And better options for other classes, at least give amazon something and give necro/druid
Death Mark
for their summons!!!
Yeah,
Death Mark
all your skeles and army of revives to the room you want to enter. Or over the wall in the middle of Souls pack instead of jumping there yourself will be huge! Similar as my Warlock is doing.

To be more serious: we have
Teleport
charges items now. Why change an Enigma or add TP jewel? Weapon, annis, headgear provide enough choice of you want armor other than Enigma. So leave it be. Want free Teleporting? There is Sorc, Assasin, jumping Barb and now Warlock. Pal with
Vigor
and
Charge
runs like nothing else. You need 200FCR Sorc to compete with him on cow level.

For Amazon , Druid and Necromancer better make
Leap
on
Gorefoot
an 0 skill. Necromancer and his 40-50 Summons in the air!

Jewel of 0skill
Teleport
if it will ever be introduced should go with serious debuff thing. Like 0.1% instadeath on arrival or -40-50(varies) to all Resist caps. 1% chance to leave you with 1 health and 1 mana on arrival for hardcore.
To nerf Enigma adding random teleporting when hit (like Oculus) will do good job. Or -10 to all skills except
Teleport
.
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Every build uses Enigma because it simply is such a good and mobile armor piece to make. Enigma is always my aim each time I play, last ladder was absolutely disgusting when it comes to any drops so didnt get it made. This ladder, didnt even bother to play yet, most likely wont, shall see.
I feel like they did something to drop rates as Ive not had this bad drop luck with anything since original d2 times. Tyraels might most likely harder to find than getting Enigma :D

What he said v
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Enigma is so good that even if it had only
Teleport
everyone would use it, and even if it had all its stats except
Teleport
people would still use it
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kerph 83

RotW Americas PC
dionisy_cn wrote: 4 hours ago
For Amazon , Druid and Necromancer better make
Leap
on
Gorefoot
an 0 skill. Necromancer and his 40-50 Summons in the air!
Making
Leap
an oskill on
Gorefoot
is a great idea

I think if they don't want to add a new skill to the original classes, they could legitimately just, change
Death Mark
to work with all summons, and add new unique gloves with oskill
Death Mark
on them. There's not really any clearly bis gloves for summoner classes as it is so i think it would be a great fit there

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Schnorki 5259Moderator

RotW PC
Teleport
is and remains the primary reason for Enigma being as essential as it is.

Enigma without
Teleport
is still a great armor for many a build but it would often times not compete with something like Chains of Honor as the added res in that case opens up more other gearing choices on top.

That said, you would in this proposal be sacrificing a jewel slot. Some classes/builds can do that no problem. Others would be dropping a facet or the like, in turn lowering their offensive performance. For the latter, Enigma may well still remain the preferred choice.
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